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  #1  
19-02-2006, 8:42 PM
ChuckTs
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All-seeing programs

that thread that was just deleted (Cheat at online poker %100 legal etc etc):
do programs like that really exist?
i know we've had tons of threads on this subject but if someones advertising it that openly...maybe it is a real program(?)
(the application i'm talking about is one of those cheating programs that let you see your opponents' cards)
 

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  #2  
19-02-2006, 9:21 PM
Fish
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Nope. They don't exist....

I'll post back later why.
  #3  
19-02-2006, 9:42 PM
Kraigus
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All con-artists trying to get your money. Even the bot thingy. Stay clear of that crap.
  #4  
19-02-2006, 11:16 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
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For the 34956873th time (sorry, but this has been brought up countless times before), if you could somehow make a program like this, would you...

(a) Sell it for $50 or whatever, maybe get a few customers and make a few hundred bucks before the product becomes obsolete.

(b) Shut the Hell up about it, use it in high-stakes games just for yourself, and make an absolute fortune.

Hmmmm.
  #5  
19-02-2006, 11:30 PM
Fish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus
For the 34956873th time (sorry, but this has been brought up countless times before), if you could somehow make a program like this, would you...

(a) Sell it for $50 or whatever, maybe get a few customers and make a few hundred bucks before the product becomes obsolete.

(b) Shut the Hell up about it, use it in high-stakes games just for yourself, and make an absolute fortune.

Hmmmm.
Dorkus gave the reasons why you wouldn't be able to buy it.
Here are the reasons they don't exist:

When you are sitting at an online poker table assume you are dealt
2 aces....

The online poker site sends a "Packet" of information to your computer that shows you 2 aces....
The online poker site does NOT send this "packet" to any other player's computer....

The flop is dealt, (viewable to anyone), the turn and river are the same... also viewable to anyone.....

When it comes time for showdown, then and only then is a packet of information sent to your opponents containing YOUR hole cards (In this case, 2 Aces).

That's it. no big mystery. The programs that you want to buy just don't exist. YOU will never see someone else's holecards.


So since Your holecards are only stored on the online poker sites servers, a VERY determined hacker could theoretically hack in and obtain this information.
Mind you, if they could do this, would they bother with hole cards?
Or go straight to the financial section and take the money without going throught the formality of actually playing?

Now, This does not mean that someone can not see YOUR hole cards.
What you ask?
Well, if you were to download a very naughty trojan file, someone can gain access to your computer, and virtually see what you see, thus seeing YOUR holecards....
How would that get on your computer?
Try downloading one of those "See your opponent's hole cards" type programs, and then you can tell us all about it
  #6  
20-02-2006, 2:15 AM
holduplaya
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus
For the 34956873th time (sorry, but this has been brought up countless times before), if you could somehow make a program like this, would you...

(a) Sell it for $50 or whatever, maybe get a few customers and make a few hundred bucks before the product becomes obsolete.

(b) Shut the Hell up about it, use it in high-stakes games just for yourself, and make an absolute fortune.

Hmmmm.
I don't mean no harm but, the number stated really should be 34,956,813rd I had trouble reading this number cause of this error
  #7  
23-03-2006, 12:18 AM
IrishDave
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One of my first threads here was a fairy tale about how a programmer working for a poker site could rig the game for their personal benefit. While I submit that this could and probably has occured, there's no way it would ever be made public...
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23-03-2006, 3:26 AM
dohmann
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not to mention the SSL encryption algorithms that make it virtually impossible to decrypt the packets (even if you could catch them) without the right keys. The security mechanisms of internet connections is really quite advanced.
 

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