All in with a pair of 5!?

#1 10th April 2009, 8:56 AM

I just watched a celebrity poker championship a moment ago(Final table-Heads up)the lady is on the first move, pushed all her chips on front-ALL IN with a pair of 5. A $200,000 price money and a $500,000 for the charity. Though the lady was beaten and came at the 2nd spot. I just want to ask is it a good idea to "All in" with pair of 5?
or what's your strategy with this?

#2 10th April 2009, 9:45 AM

Absolutely positively YES YES YES!!! but only beause it was heads up play. In shorthanded play, especially heads up, any face card is worth raising up with. A pocket pair (even twos) is far stronger heads up than they would be earlier in the tourney.

#3 10th April 2009, 11:17 AM

I would say yes as well. Heads up like that, with any pair I would push

#4 10th April 2009, 11:19 AM

Yes, heads up you have a very good chance of holding the best.

#5 10th April 2009, 11:19 AM

Heads up ANY pocketpair CAN be a good startinghand to shove..., all depending on blinds and stacksize..., but with no further info i would say..., PUSH. It is a coinflip most of the time and behind only to any higher pocketpair, so push & pray...
aC

#6 11th April 2009, 12:04 AM

definately all in a pocket pair heads up is massive

#7 11th April 2009, 12:56 AM

Heads up pocket pair is always the better hand Id go all in with any of them I think you have the better odds and chances are the other will fold.

#8 11th April 2009, 1:02 AM

in heads-up any pair is very good

#9 11th April 2009, 1:23 AM

I would say, get them in while you are ahead.

If you don't push, it is very likely that there will be 3 scare cards out there that could have you behind so if you play it slow and don't hit a 5 you won't really know where you are in the pot.

Like most other people said, shove with your pairs HU more often than not.

#10 11th April 2009, 2:00 AM

I also agree that it was a good choice to go all-in with 5 5 mainly because it's heads up.I would have done the same thing.

#11 11th April 2009, 2:39 AM

all in heads up pre flop with any pair is always good, hardly does your opponent have a pair him or herself.

#12 11th April 2009, 5:01 AM

Heads up yes. Short stack in late position yes. Normal stack in early position, no way.

#13 11th April 2009, 5:18 AM

In heads up you can go all-in almost with any two cards. You chances to win almost equal in every hand, exept somebody has AA or KK. Just lucky or unlucky.

#14 11th April 2009, 5:24 AM

yes yes, definately for sure a good idea... would even be a respectable move with deuces...only time its a bad move is when the other has a higher pocket pair lol.

but in heads up play a pocket pair is a better starting hand than AK, so yea push with it, and it puts pressure on your opponent and makes them think.

#15 11th April 2009, 7:05 AM

Any pair Heads up is pretty much Luuuuuuv!

#16 11th April 2009, 7:14 AM

Interesting. Heads-up is really a different world, then.

#17 11th April 2009, 7:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twizzybop

all in heads up pre flop with any pair is always good, hardly does your opponent have a pair him or herself.

yes because even if villain 4 bet shoves on us, a pair of 3s is probably ahead

i cannot say if it was a good play without stack sizes, blind level, etc.it could well be a bad play to stack 5-5 HU depending on player reads and metagame. more info is necessary to analyse a hand

the advice in this thread is horrible imo, " I HAZ PEAR, ARRIN"

#18 12th April 2009, 1:52 PM

If you play Hands Up and you got piar just go to all in, eny piar is good

#19 12th April 2009, 5:24 PM

I got took out by 55 yesterday at the last table of a game.I had AQSpades,and missed,so there ya go.

#20 12th April 2009, 7:02 PM

If this was heads up then it was 100% the correct play. 55 is a great hand in a heads up game. I would bet it every time without fail.

#21 12th April 2009, 8:26 PM

Yeah, just have to take your chances that you aren't going to run into a bigger pair. If you are too conservative heads up, you'll get eaten alive by a quality player.

#22 12th April 2009, 8:30 PM

I don't understand how everybody can see that this is the right move.

All you know is first pays 200k and 500k to charity. Without knowing the stacks and blinds how can you even guess ?

#23 12th April 2009, 8:55 PM

/wrist

/facepalm

/wrist

#24 14th April 2009, 3:55 PM

I would've done the same thing.

#25 14th April 2009, 7:01 PM

People going all in with a low pocket pair, not at the finalable short stacked are idiots. Thats the bottom line, its a ridiculous play only done because online poker is so forgiving to weird donk play

#26 21st April 2009, 4:08 AM

Thank you sooooooooo much guys for your wonderful replies(",)!!! I learned a lot. Keep posting(",)for any additional tips or strategies and I'll appreciate it big time(",)!!!have a nice poker day!

#27 21st April 2009, 4:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eNTy

I don't understand how everybody can see that this is the right move.

All you know is first pays 200k and 500k to charity. Without knowing the stacks and blinds how can you even guess ?

Thank you. This spam of pointless repetitive posts is ridiculous. Can't people read through the replies to see what people have said before?

Obviously if you are 50BB deep open shoving with pocket fives is a terrible play. Heads up you should only be open raising all in if you have less than 10-15BB (correct me if I'm wrong, someone who knows more about HU than I do).

Now if someone opened to 3BB against me and I had 20 BB's, I could see raising all in. You get good fold equity and any smaller raise pot commits you anyway.

#28 21st April 2009, 4:19 AM

I think you have to look at the blinds compared to chip stacks and how many villian has,anything over an M around 12 I may raise 2.5 times blind and see what happens.If I have M over 15 I am not likely to stack off with pct 5s.

#29 21st April 2009, 4:26 AM

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