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  Poker - Ace rag
 
  #1  
15-05-2006, 9:47 PM
robwhufc
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Ace rag

A little observation I noticed when I first started playing, but has carried on time and time again - when you get Ace rag (or Ace anything), Nine times out of Ten you're dealt the Ace first? Or is that just me?
 

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  #2  
15-05-2006, 11:22 PM
Four Dogs
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Rob! lol...
This is signature fodder.
  #3  
16-05-2006, 12:18 AM
Styrofoam
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lol. When i'm playing live I look down to find Pocket Aces....and i look harder and the stupid 4 looks like an A at first glance. I get so frustrated.
  #4  
16-05-2006, 1:11 AM
Peter North
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robwhufc
A little observation I noticed when I first started playing, but has carried on time and time again - when you get Ace rag (or Ace anything), Nine times out of Ten you're dealt the Ace first? Or is that just me?
yeah, I get so excited then bam there is that 3 or 4. Happens with K,Q,J too.
  #5  
16-05-2006, 1:34 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
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It's simple psychology I think.

You get dealt an Ace first and get a little excited, and 'exciting' experiences are more likely to stick in the mind.

Whereas you get dealt a 4 first, your cursor begins to hover over the fold button and you promptly forget you ever saw the hand.
  #6  
16-05-2006, 4:58 PM
Fish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus
It's simple psychology I think.

You get dealt an Ace first and get a little excited, and 'exciting' experiences are more likely to stick in the mind.

Whereas you get dealt a 4 first, your cursor begins to hover over the fold button and you promptly forget you ever saw the hand.
And this explains exactly how the "online is rigged" enthusiasts think.
They forget all the times their aces won (because it was expected), but sure as heck remember when they lost(unexpected).

So when they try and think about their experience playing online, all they can remember are the "unexpected" outcomes and thus online is rigged according to them.
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16-05-2006, 6:54 PM
gord962
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish
And this explains exactly how the "online is rigged" enthusiasts think.
They forget all the times their aces won (because it was expected), but sure as heck remember when they lost(unexpected).

So when they try and think about their experience playing online, all they can remember are the "unexpected" outcomes and thus online is rigged according to them.
Amen, brother. I am really getting sick of the newbies to online poker bitching about rigged games. Or could it really be that the huge poker sites take the time to target each newcomer and decides to reward a random individual that makes a bad call. That's go to be it!! lmao
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19-05-2006, 6:16 AM
PokerW1Z
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no it is true
write down everytime you get an ace and 95% the ace will be first
  #9  
19-05-2006, 6:51 AM
F Paulsson
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerW1Z
no it is true
write down everytime you get an ace and 95% the ace will be first
Oh yeah? How many times did YOU write down?

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  #10  
19-05-2006, 7:54 AM
Dorkus Malorkus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by F Paulsson
Oh yeah? How many times did YOU write down?
I'll set the over/under at 3.

Edit: No, wait, 0.
  #11  
19-05-2006, 8:19 AM
Fish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by F Paulsson
Oh yeah? How many times did YOU write down?

I think your program is rigged.
  #12  
19-05-2006, 8:29 AM
F Paulsson
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I can rig it any way you like, baby.
  #13  
21-05-2006, 2:29 PM
juiceeQ
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Freddie! I am so disappointed. And here I thought you worked out all your amazing odds in your head, using only your fingers and toes to help you along.

Last edited by juiceeQ : 21-05-2006 at 2:44 PM.
  #14  
22-05-2006, 6:14 AM
F Paulsson
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* F Paulsson bonks jQ on the head

It's a program I wrote with the specific purpose of refuting claims like this one. It doesn't count odds for me, but instead parses hand histories and summarizes whatever it is I need summarizing. In this case, the order of the ace (since, frankly, it sucks badly to have to go through the hand histories manually).
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