Abuse at the tables

I have been playing poker for a while now and consider myself to be a fair player. I would'nt say I am great but I have won a 6,000 entrant freeroll and played in $1,200 buy-in tournaments.

I was playing on Ladbrokes on Friday night in a $5000 guaranteed prize pool, $10+$1. Its very early tourney and I have been playing for a few hours. I am a tight player early but thought "what the hell, I am gonna call a few of these hands early and see if I can get a nice stack and be up the leaderboard".

I get dealt A 10h. I would normally stay in here with poss top pair and nice kicker. The flop comes up 7h 9c Jd. Me and one other in the pot and he raise 300. I am sitting on 1,500 and with a poss straight and flush draw consider this an ok call. I would normally fold it early tourney. I am pretty sure this guy has minimum 2 pair or straight. next card comes 6h. Now I have a strong flush draw but need the 8 for a straight. He raise 500. I figure I will be low stacked but also I know he has a straight. Anyway I call river comes 2h. I have an A flush and know I will take the pot. He goes all-in, knowing he has made two mistakes A) not leaving himself an out and b) not taking the pot down early.

Anyway, he starts saying "fish" and he even went to my profile saying how Im biggest moment in poker is playing in a $1,200 tourney etc. I just said cya mate. I also said that if he was that good, he wouldnt be playing in $10 tourneys.

I was so angry I wish I could have seen the guy to spark him cos he really p*ssed me off and I had to stop playing for a while so I could calm down!

I just hate abuse at tables and name calling. I will no doubt come across this more but i try to ignore it

Happens all the time to me. I generally play very conservative but sometimes the cards don't come and you're forced to play less than premium hands. At the forum challenge last Friday, I had not played a hand and played a J-T suited as it was the best I'd seen. Moderate betting till the river and then I called about half my chip stack. Had a 4 flush, open ended straight draw, and middle pair so I figured - why not. Caught the str8, won the pot, and got bitched at for the next 5 minutes. Ignored it and played on. Fella had 2 pair so I guess I was supposed to fold...

Name and shame!

If you won the hand - keep quiet ... Ya WON! no reason for you to get flustered and upset at him -- and the guy making the rude comments is just a sore loser and knows he didn't make the correct bets to win the pot early and is really mad at HIMSELF!

I think its funny. You should just sit there and imagine him pulling his hair out and dancing around his computer in rage because you won the pot. He's a sight! LOL

People like to say "nice river" because they know they made the wrong bet and let that last river card come out. They try to make you think you got lucky, but they made a fatal mistake.

Take the chips and laugh!!!!

Thats why many players disable chat.

He never bet you out of the hand and now has to pay the price. We all hate suckouts, but if you let them happen to you, they will!!! Everytime it seems!

So how did you finish?

He did accomplish his goal of tilting you after you laid the beat on him though. Don't let anyone, live or online shake you out of your game. You gambled and it paid off, simple as that. Sucks for him, but I'm sure he has laid a whopper on someone on down the line before.

I finished in about 80th, which was way out the money

I like the chat facility, just dont like the morons who use it sometimes.

It can sometimes make the game so much more nejoyable when you get a nice bunch of ppl who like to have a laugh why playing.

I says to him "you should have taken down the pot earlier". I dont think he was lsitening though. I laugh about it now

Sounds to me like he had no business playing in that tourney. You are right to laugh at it. Too bad you didn't make it into the money.
One question, though, why giving him advice? I am temted sometimes to do that but always think, why make the cometition stronger? Mind you, I have not much business playing in higher tourneys, so what do I know.

I hate when that happens. I was in a freeroll recently and called a big bet I shouldn't have, hoping for a lucky draw. I had a few outs, and yep, I hit one of them for a full house, busting the other guy's A-high flush. He went crazy, said f... you, f... Ultimatebet, etc. Makes me wonder how demented the guy was to get so upset over a dang freeroll hand ...

This is perfect time to introduce you all to PAAL, Players Against Abusive Language, this organization is one of the greatest things going on the net right now for Internet poker....downfall, the member base of this oprganization is at chardsharkspoker.com on their forum....so maybe someone could contact them and we could work together with them to form our own branch....

Was that last post serious? You have got to be fcucking kidding me. Haha.

i think MADD (mothers against drunk driving) will spank them for you if you cry to mama. Just kidding man just making a joke about PAAL

I can't say I've ever berrated someone for beating me when they were more than 20% to win. I figure they could be semi-bluffing, or maybe they thought I was bluffing. I usually yell at my opponents when they call with nothing. For example:

I was playing 44. Flop comes out 4c, 9d, 5c. I bet more than pot since there's a straight draw & flush draw out there. Some guy calls. Turn comes Ks. I bet pot again, guy calls. I'm really starting to sweat. Next card comes out, 2c. I'm screwed for sure. I bet out, since at this point, half my chips are in the pot. The guy calls. He has JT off suit. The bastard made me sweat my set 4's over nothing! I hope he dies in his sleep >_>

Maybe I should seek therapy

In all seriousness, I usually just say something like "What exactly were you thinking?" rather than bringing out the big 4 letter naughty words.

Good to see you back on the forum Diablo, how's your Mom & them?

Haha
I just realized when reading Irishdaves and Diablo's posts that they dont even post here anymore. This thread is over two years old.

Cali420fornia you dont need to bring up old posts.

marauders4

You know - I read a lot about what you are "suppose to do" and what hands to play and when to get out of a hand, etc...

But then I watch some of the big guys play poker and they sometimes fall trap to the same things everyone else does.

I watched Brunson get busted on a hand that, according to his own book, he shouldn't have been in. I'm in the middle of Harrington's 3 book set and I watched him in a '05 WSOP and he played a hand against bets that he says he stays away from in his book.

Sometimes you just have a hunch. One thing about PokerStars is I get the same hands a bunch of times in a SNG. I know, online you play more hands so you see things faster. But I had K5o about three times...and when I got it again later in the tourney (about 5 ppl left) I thought "what they hay". Called blinds, then called a raise. Flop comes out K5x. 2 pair on flop. As I always have the problem of letting people stay around cheaply, I put out a pot size bet. Got a caller. My 2 pair stood up and the guy was obviously mad I called the raise preflop w/ that hand.

I didn't have a logical reason why I called it. The raise wasn't big enough to scare me out and I just had a "hunch". Got tired of folding the same hand so one time I called it.

So don't get on tilt when you win a pot that "perhaps" by poker logic you shouldn't have. Watch the pros play. They contradict themselves all the time. After all, if everyone played by the "rules" then noone would go bust. But obviously in tourneys, only one will win. So someone made a mistake somewhere.

Just ignore it. We all fish from time to time thats poker. If they can't take the heat they shouldn't stand so close to the fire.
Scrappy

I feel you. I cant stand getting on the tables with people with bad attitudes. Its poker! you are going to suck out on someone or get sucked out on. I mean i hate when people have to be rude about it. I try and never be rude...unless you know people want to be rude, then i can get nasty! LOL

I hate people who use bad language in tourney play. Sometimes I think its kids of players on without permission. Or there is just some people whom do that kind of thing to distract us from the game. There will always be poor sports we just have to learn to block them from our chat.

Gotta be one of the unfortunate downsides to playing people online. I guarantee you play most of these same people face-to-face, they wouldn't say a word to you, a computer's a great thing to hide behind.