25NL $10,000 31 day challenge

#1 28th May 2008, 9:21 AM

Been following this thread in 2+2 for a couple days now.
***Official $10000 in a month at NL 25 Challenge Update Thread*** - Two Plus Two Poker Forum
This guy has a prop bet going that he can make 10k playing 25nl at pokerstars 24 tabling, in 31 days. As of day 5 he has already played about 105,000 hands, which is incomprehensible to me. He has a webcam set up for the duration of the month Justin.tv - Live Streaming Video.

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I'm rooting for him personally but I don't think I would ever want to play poker again after a month like that

#2 28th May 2008, 9:42 AM

Ive been reading it too, gl luck with this.

In before lock BTW!

#3 28th May 2008, 11:11 AM

I hope he makes it, it's fun to watch him on the webcam for some reason .

I've seen a couple of people from CC in the webcam chat too.

#4 28th May 2008, 11:47 AM

He aint gonna do it.

#5 28th May 2008, 12:01 PM

I remember reading about this a couple of weeks ago and thinking he had no chance - I stand by that. If I were richer I'd have put monies on him failing even at 2.5-1 on, which I think the odds were.

Seriously he has to play ~20 tables for a ridiculous number of hours every day at ~6-7BB/100. By the time a couple of weeks have passed he will be going insane.

#6 28th May 2008, 12:08 PM

Yea ive been following this as well. He seems to be doing a lot better than the nl$200 challenge that constanta_g took.

#7 28th May 2008, 12:10 PM

400 buy ins in a month is just like .

I would be astonished if he achieved this.

#8 28th May 2008, 12:13 PM

Man, I'm mega curious, personally never played more than 4 tables at a time. What is his strategy for 24 tables at a time and such a lucrative target in 1 month? Would it be top 10 hands only? I know he's playing .10/.25 - does anyone know what his starting BR was?

#9 28th May 2008, 12:33 PM

You could easily 24 table with a roll of $1.5k probably less tbh.

#10 28th May 2008, 12:44 PM

yes but he's taken a total of like $20k worth of action on it so I think he has a decent BR, heh.

#11 28th May 2008, 12:59 PM

Yep of course, I think he's a reg at like 2/4nl if not more. So He's well rolled for this and the prop bets. There was some suggestion he's doing this coz he was running bad at whatever levels he plays at.

I was speaking generally with regards to needing a roll for 24 tabling at 25nl.

#12 28th May 2008, 1:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tenbob

Yea ive been following this as well. He seems to be doing a lot better than the nl$200 challenge that constanta_g took.

I think Constanza actually ended up netting 5 or 6k in profits and rakeback from fpps after the challenge, even after losing the prop. He put out 15k in action, but made it up to about 20k. Rider is going to have to win the bet to avoid losing money. But I agree that his determination seems a lot better than costanza, and I think he has more experience 24 tabling.

#13 28th May 2008, 1:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tenbob

Yea ive been following this as well. He seems to be doing a lot better than the nl$200 challenge that constanta_g took.

i don't think so. first 2 days looked good, but rider's been breaking even/down for the past 3 days . ~$1000 total for the first 5 days, not gonna cut it. i hope he somehow turns it around though

#14 28th May 2008, 2:32 PM

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Originally Posted by custo80

What is his strategy for 24 tables at a time and such a lucrative target in 1 month? Would it be top 10 hands only? I know he's playing .10/.25 - does anyone know what his starting BR was?

It would have to be a very tight, bot-style game. Problem is that all his opponents are going to know that now, so he's not going to get paid of unless some random fish stumbles in.

How do you not keep getting timed out if you play that many hands?

#15 28th May 2008, 2:54 PM

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Originally Posted by robwhufc

It would have to be a very tight, bot-style game. Problem is that all his opponents are going to know that now, so he's not going to get paid of unless some random fish stumbles in.

How do you not keep getting timed out if you play that many hands?

Its been a while since I've played nl$25 anyway seriously. But in fairness even at nl$100 half the table are fish, and continually pay off players that play like total rocks. I'd hazard a guess that if 3 people on average are paying attention to whats happening on an average nl$25 table or even are aware of this guy, id be very suprised.

#16 28th May 2008, 3:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tenbob

Its been a while since I've played nl$25 anyway seriously. But in fairness even at nl$100 half the table are fish, and continually pay off players that play like total rocks. I'd hazard a guess that if 3 people on average are paying attention to whats happening on an average nl$25 table or even are aware of this guy, id be very suprised.

Which leads to another thought/question.

TB, Jagsti, Chuck and those who frequent higher staked games (in my case 25NL is high stakes and I know that it really isn't);

Is it your opinion that many/most/few of the players at those stakes are unaware of poker forums in general? If you could put some mythical number on an average #, I personally would be very interested.

I have no clue, and may be overestimating that a lot of players are aware of, and visit poker forums often. Probably due to my preference for CC games.

#17 28th May 2008, 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Richyl2008

Been following this thread in 2+2 for a couple days now.
***Official $10000 in a month at NL 25 Challenge Update Thread*** - Two Plus Two Poker Forum
This guy has a prop bet going that he can make 10k playing 25nl at pokerstars 24 tabling, in 31 days. As of day 5 he has already played about 105,000 hands, which is incomprehensible to me. He has a webcam set up for the duration of the month Justin.tv - Live Streaming Video.

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I'm rooting for him personally but I don't think I would ever want to play poker again after a month like that

Well if he can keep up that many hands, he just needs to run at a little over 3 PTBB/100. Of course running like that's a lot tougher when you're playing like every waking hour lol. Seriously, averaging 21k hands/day? Insane.

#18 28th May 2008, 3:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dj11

Which leads to another thought/question.

TB, Jagsti, Chuck and those who frequent higher staked games (in my case 25NL is high stakes and I know that it really isn't);

Is it your opinion that many/most/few of the players at those stakes are unaware of poker forums in general? If you could put some mythical number on an average #, I personally would be very interested.

I have no clue, and may be overestimating that a lot of players are aware of, and visit poker forums often. Probably due to my preference for CC games.

At 25nl I'd guess <1%. At 50nl it probably jumps up to ~5%. I'm sure it gets higher at 100nl from what I've heard but 50nl's the highest I've regularly played.

#19 28th May 2008, 3:32 PM

I wonder what the difference was between his 2nd day play and the other days. Because he's essentially breaking even all the time but for the 2nd day where he did most of his profit.

It's hard to put it down on variance only when he averages more than 20k hands per day. Either he changed strategy or there are lot more fishes to catch on saturdays.

#20 28th May 2008, 3:43 PM

I think it has to do with a combination of burnout and distraction. He seems to do a lot of multi-tasking when he needs to be focusing on the playing the A-game. It appears he's spewing lots of money in pots that arent going to showdown, might be on tilt.

#21 28th May 2008, 3:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Richyl2008

I think it has to do with a combination of burnout and distraction. He seems to do a lot of multi-tasking when he needs to be focusing on the playing the A-game. It appears he's spewing lots of money in pots that arent going to showdown, might be on tilt.

no man, he's not spewing, it's the opposite. he's weak-tighting all of them and getting the pots taken away. that's why he's getting crushed in non showdown pots, which is kind of reasonable given he's 24 tabling

#22 28th May 2008, 8:57 PM

The rake that he has to pay is absolutely ridiculous though, I thought he would be able to do it easily but apparently the rake is like 7ptbb/100 hands. I never realized it was that bad at Stars but it sucks that none of the FPPs and stuff that he gets will count towards the bet.

#23 28th May 2008, 11:16 PM

I think some of why his winning levelled off is that there are always people waiting to get on his tables. I'm sure most of them know about the bet and can figure out how he's going to have to play.

I've looked at his games, played on a table once but had no effect, plus or minus, on his BR.

#24 28th May 2008, 11:23 PM

Wow! I'd go insane on more than 2 tables. I wish him luck though...

#25 28th May 2008, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj11

Which leads to another thought/question.

TB, Jagsti, Chuck and those who frequent higher staked games (in my case 25NL is high stakes and I know that it really isn't);

Is it your opinion that many/most/few of the players at those stakes are unaware of poker forums in general? If you could put some mythical number on an average #, I personally would be very interested.

I have no clue, and may be overestimating that a lot of players are aware of, and visit poker forums often. Probably due to my preference for CC games.

Well I've just started 100nl and I would say there are at least 3 regs on almost every table I have played at, which kinda sucks. Sometimes there's as many as 5 which is pretty horrible.

At the end of the day if 100nl has got that many regs, then table selection is vital. Dont get me wrong some of the regs are spewy as well, which is good, but it definitely seems a little more loaded with regs than at 50nl.

Very difficult to put a %age on it though at this stage as I have only played 20k hands at 100nl.

#26 28th May 2008, 11:58 PM

21k hands a day, holy shit! Thats about the amount of hands I have played in the last year.

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