| This is a discussion on 1/2 NL Live.. Folded queens, the whole table says that was stupid.. Why? within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; I would like some peoples opinion on this.. Holding QQ, I recall about 2 people limping in for $2, it gets to me and I ... |
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| 1/2 NL Live.. Folded queens, the whole table says that was stupid.. Why? I would like some peoples opinion on this.. Holding QQ, I recall about 2 people limping in for $2, it gets to me and I raise to $6, the next guy after me raises to $12, the last guy raises to $32. I've seen and played with those two for awhile and I had NO DOUBT in my mind that they both had pocket pair, kings and aces.. So I fold. Even the dealer says.. what?? Who folded pocket queens? When the flop comes, its rainbow with a Q in their, both guys go all in obviously.. but I KNEW I was beat preflop, so was that a good lay down or not?? Maybe my table is full of stupids or I'm the stupid one? I was chip leader with almost $400, $100 max buy in. Thanks for the help in advance. PS: Oh also, the guy who raised to $32 had kings, the guy with aces won. |
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| Without any reads, a call with queens would be acceptable. The Q hitting the flop isn't important here, what is important is that you made a awesome lay-down because you had reads on your opponents holding the 2 next best hands to yours. Very good fold. With Queens it's hard, but you can let them go in a situation like this. This really sucks for the guys with the Kings. At a cash game, I wouldn't fold those. One mis-read of someone having aces can cost you a big opportunity. |
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| If you have history w them and know there's absolutely no way that they make those raises without KK+, or even if only the raiser to $32 doesn't do that without KK+, then yes it's a good laydown - unless they were also deepstacked (sounds like they're not), in which case seeing the flop might've been a good choice. |
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| re: 1/2 NL Live.. Folded queens, the whole table says that was stupid.. Why? poker I think you made the right move. I've folded Aces when this type of betting is going on as if I put $32 with my luck, they would have trip 2's of sorts and beat my QQ. One of the two lost money, but you only lost $2. |
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| Awesome laydown! I don't think I would have been so disciplined. I think, even knowing their tendencies, I would have called the raise, if only to see the flop. Would cost more however, huge upside. I definately would never consider your move to be the move of an idiot. Good Laydown. |
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| Thanks for the feedback guys, I feel better now. Quote:
Pretty much the whole table folded by the time it got to me, that is very unsual for 1/2 NL live. Most of the time you get 5-7 in preflop. |
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| re: 1/2 NL Live.. Folded queens, the whole table says that was stupid.. Why? poker Only time queens shouldnt be folded in this spot imo: 1. Crazy degen gamblers. 2. You only get 3 betted and not 4. 1. Gamblers gamble, meaning them 3 and 4 betting doesnt mean a big pocket pair. 2. If someone just 3 betted you even if you suspected that they really have a higher pocket pair, for 6 dollars more it is worth it to set mine and see a flop, if they had the same stack as you at 1/2 live you would have probably been able to get it in on the flop with them putting you on AQ or something. Any other reasons not to fold? |
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I'm not there to gamble. |
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| I want to play at a table with the gambler.lol. a table full of em and fill my pockets. for a poker player to say he is a gambler just tells me he's 1 weak as hell 2 doesn't want to make money 3 def doesn't have a grasp on the game he's gambling at.lol |
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| I just had the same situation online Tuesday I was under the gun with QQ I have 18k blinds are 200/400 I raise to 1600 UTG mid position reraises allin for 13k then another reraise allin to 25k folds around to me I figure one of them have to have AA or KK so I fold they flip over and the first guy has AA the other has KK, great fold for me..............until flop is Q 2 2 LOL oh well its poker. |
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| raise reraise after limping makes this an easy fold calling was the wrong choice and in the long run would be unproffittable to find the answer ask yourself if you knew thier cards what would be the right choice flop does not matter. something funny about $6 raise dont get that? |
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Any higher and you usually get everyone folding (for the time being anyway). Quote:
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| i think what salim is trying to say is, that in the hand posted above, in that spot, queens shld always fold. even if the 2 villians had the stacks for u to try and setmine, knowing that u're beat, the $12 raiser is not going to flat call the extra $20, not with u in the hand as well. he's going to raise 100%, and aces prob reraise again, which is why tryin to setmine in that spot is 100% -ev. however, if it were headsup, for example, stacks are very deep, $800 each in a 1/2 game. if u raise to $6 pf and get repopped by villian to $12, reraising here will tell u where u are at, perhaps to $38. if he can come over the top again, making it $100 to go, even if u know he has KK or AA, u should almost always call here. both of u have $700 behind, u're definitely getting the right implied odds to try and hit your set. hope that makes sense. |
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| I would fold QQ here if I knew the two players who raised were tight or had specific reads here. Otherwise I'm shoving here. 1-2 NL live is one of the loosest games you will ever find. Standard raise here is generally 12 to 15 Dollars. Your small raise might have implied weakness normally. Either way don't worry about what people think of your poker game and play the way you can win with. Also the dealer should have never spoke about your hand. If the dealer really was a good player he would be playing somewhere and not working there. |
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