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  Poker - You're take on trips...
 
  #1  
19-06-2005, 9:47 PM
Inger05
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You're take on trips...

If you hit trips on a flop but there's also a possible straight or flush draw, how do you play them? Slow play or bet 'em out? This situation seems to pop up frequently for me and sometimes gets me in trouble...
 

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  #2  
19-06-2005, 10:11 PM
twizzybop
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With trips compared to the set on the flop.. well first there is the same % or possibility of someone getting a full house or quads compared to someone getting the straight or the flush.
  #3  
19-06-2005, 10:13 PM
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well. U need discipline to lay down trips.. i check and call if its a min raise or bet. and by the turn or river. im gonna try and make a read to see if he has em or not. if he goes all in on the flop or turn then im gonna fold.. even if he pushes it all in near the river. U need to use ure judgment but most of the time im gonna check, call or fold. theres a good chance your opponet has it
  #4  
22-06-2005, 5:43 AM
xdmanx007
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When dealiing with trips with a drawing board your best play is to attempt to take the pot down ASAP! In NL/PL bet an appropriate amount to kill your opponents drawing odds so that if they do draw they made a decision that had a negative expectation and your bet had positive expectation! You must kill your opponents drawing odds in NL if they still draw and hit you still have to have the dicipline to lay down your hand if you believe your opponent hit his draw! DO NOT play trips passively a set can be played deceptively but not trips!
  #5  
22-06-2005, 5:50 AM
MicheleW
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Bet big and take the pot down. You've got to know and have seen trips lose to a straight or full house enough to know to not let any more cards come out.
  #6  
22-06-2005, 6:07 AM
Crippler450
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Player 100
well. U need discipline to lay down trips.. i check and call if its a min raise or bet. and by the turn or river. im gonna try and make a read to see if he has em or not. if he goes all in on the flop or turn then im gonna fold.. even if he pushes it all in near the river. U need to use ure judgment but most of the time im gonna check, call or fold. theres a good chance your opponet has it
This is the absolute WORST way you can play this hand. Slow playing a set will screw you over so often its not even funny. do NOT do this. Attempt to take the pot right away and not give them the chance at their straight or flush!
  #7  
22-06-2005, 6:53 PM
juiceeQ
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Got to agree with dman, Michele, and Crippler on this one. Slow play it, and your dead. Never let your opponent get his draw for free! Make 'em pay for it if they want it that bad...chances are they'll fold (if you've made a scary enough raise), and you have saved your trips!
  #8  
23-06-2005, 11:04 PM
takua
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I don't quite agree with the NOSLOWPLAY concept. And actually this applies to a set and not K9 where the flop came 992. Say you have JJ and the flop comes J28 with 2 clubs. Oh crap someone is going to suck out on you and catch the flush. Then the turn comes 8c. Sucker made his flush and pushes you all in.
  #9  
25-06-2005, 10:26 AM
diabloblanco
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Poker Player 100, please if you are going to give people advice and answer other posters questions, make sure your advice is at least solid, good advice, that is written in a well thought out and coherent manner. I don't know of anyone that would play trips on a board showing a straight or flush draw with a "check or call" strategy. That is fool-hearty to say the least. Anytime you play a hand, each step in that hand has to have a purpose, has to give you information. What information do you get from your opponent with a check or a call of a minimum bet on the flop? I can tell you what he gets from you, little neon signs that read "weak." You have to protect your hand in a situation like this. You can't the opponent see another card for free or for a minimum bet. He may already be 4 to the Flush with an ace in his hand and catch the nut flush on the turn or the river. You had him killed after the flop, with trips, but a weak play let him draw a hand better than yours and your weak betting pattern gives him the green light to railroad you the rest of the night. If you bet strong on the flop here, do you think he calls with an Ace high? Maybe, maybe not, but chances are, more often than not, he will lay an Ace high hand down against a strong bet on the flop and you pick up a pot.
  #10  
25-06-2005, 5:09 PM
pdkash
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push them out quickly let em know they will have to pay to catch that flush the rest of the game
  #11  
25-06-2005, 10:12 PM
Bill_Hollorian
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Dont slowplay its a commandment

Thou shalt not slowplay trips...

For the time being, its enough to say that trips will stand up in a show down enough to make going all the way profitable.

In other words if you get dealt trips ten times and go all the way to the river, you will probably have the best hand more often then not. So you lose three times to a flush or straight, but you win 7. (not accurate math, just being used to demonstrate a point)
Get money in there fast, punish them for drawing to your highly powerful and disguised hand.

Every bet saved is a bet won. There are certain flops that are dangerous, laying down in these situations is what really gets the money!

Bill
  #12  
26-06-2005, 8:21 AM
Randy
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Agree with everyone else. Slowplaying trips is folly, and I learned that the hard way, not just once, but over many hands and lost chips. Some might argue that I don't slowplay anything though, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.
  #13  
26-06-2005, 3:05 PM
diabloblanco
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Slowplaying, unless you are one of the best, absolute best, players is a donkey move. Especially on the net at low limits. You're almost always going to get called down and allow a card chaser to make a hand. And when someone is beat like that, their next stop is here to bitch about how they took the Worst. Beat. Ever., when in all actuallity playing the hand like a schmuck instead of taking the pot down allowed a very made hand to be donkified.
 



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