When is it ok to chase?

I know many people will argue that chasing gets you in trouble,but if you don't chase once in a while----you'll be blinded out or kick yourself later.
I've had A K suited and chased a flush(caught it)--->that's ok-nice hand.
I've had 8 9 suited chased a flush(caught it) and been called a donkey.
Is it ok to chase open ended straights(to a mid raise)--->but not gut shot(to a min raise).
I know that all hands have a certain number of outs--and when you catch those outs and beat someones trips or two pair--they go ballistic,and call you a donkey.But then at the same time when their two pair catch's a set they win with the full house......isn't that CHASING.
NO ONE ever yells at a FULLHOUSE.
Any thoughts?

I say it's ok chase when the EV is worth it.like say If there are 4 people in the hand and I feel as if,when I hit my gutterball..I will be able get paid off by more then tripleing up.altough if the board is paired I hardly ever chase,wether it's an Ace High flush draw or open ended Str8.because I could be drawing dead.

When you chased the flushes, was it like you had diamond diamond, and the flop comes 1 diamond and you caught runner runner? or was there 2 diamonds on the flop? If there were two diamonds on the flop, I would definitely say go for it, because your probably getting good value for your money - if there are two diamonds on the flip you have about a 1 in 3 shot of hitting the flop, and probably winning the hand - if two or more other people are calling the raise, your getting good value for your money

Also, if you are against one other person who, lets say bets 300 into a pot of 600, I believe your getting good value on your money to call because its gonna cost you 300 to win 900, which is the same 1 to 3 odds that you have of winning the hand.

Generally, when u have 2 pair, u think u have the best hand so i don't think it's chasing.I think u should chase when you r sure u gonna get payed at the end .

actually wen they have two pair and the board is not paired,they have a very strong hand...so technically they arent chasing with nothin...but when yu are chasing draws...yu either hit big or have nothin by the end of the river...once in a while its ok to chase draws...gut shots are check-folds for sure unless your oppenents are very loose

I agree with this. In addition I think the donkey factor comes in what bet are you calling when chasing. If someone has the nuts and throws up a monster bet to protect their hand and you don't have anything and call it and luck out on the river that is when the name calling comes in. I personally don't name call but alot at the tables do.

Chasing is ok if you can afford it....bottom line in my opinion....If the bets are too much then you really need to get out of the pot...again everything depends on the situation..who u are playing..what point in the hand u are in..e.tc....

Are we talking tournaments or ring games?
In ring games, its easy:

This is the classic example of when pot odds become important. If you have 2 to a flush on the flop, the chances of landing a flush is
1 - (38/47)*(37/46) = 34.97%, which is 1.86:1 odds.

Therefore, if you are getting more than 1.86:1 pot odds, you should call.
If there is 10$ in the pot and someone bets 5$, you should call because you are investing 5$ to win 15$, a 3:1 payout. If there is 10$ in the pot and someone bets 20$, you should fold because you are investing 20$ to win 30$, a 1.5:1 payout.

The equivalence point (which has almost no practical value in poker) is when they bet 11.63$ into a 10$ pot, where the expected value of calling and folding are the same.

So, as always, it depends

everyone gets lucky sometimes and with everycard your trying to create a better hand so in my opinion you spend the entire game chasin' and if u hit then good for u... Poker is part luck and part skill... even the best player has to rely on instinct and cards.

This correct answer is you chase your draws when you are getting the correct pot odds to do so.

In a cash game...... It's okay when you think you have the advantage.

In tournament play..... Pretty much never.


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In tournament play if you have a good enough chip advantage over another player i think it is ok to chase a flush. But its not a good idea to make it a regular habit in your poker playing.

Stretch the concept ever so slightly, and isn't any hand other than large pocket pairs a chasing event?

Depends on the flop :P

If someone makes a flush and you make two pair, you're the one chasing a full house, even if you don't know it. This of course if you're already stretching the concept.

If you flop quads or a straight flush, not much more to chase

BTW 50 posts! I guess I can do freerolls or something, I don't even know where the freerolls are, but that's not why I joined in the first place so w/e.

I respectfully disagree. In tourney play, the larger your stack, the tighter you should play. You don't chase, because you have no need to. You can afford to wait for the monsters at that point.

One of the most important (if not the most) parts of the play is stack management. Loosening up after accumulating a big stack? This is just the type of player I look for during mid play.


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As so many others have said it depends on the pot and implied odds you are getting. You can afford to chase with slightly bad pot odds if you feel you will get paid off if you hit. Its why everyone wants to play pps hoping for a set. Its hidden value gives better odds than the pot indicates. You'll turn a set roughly 1 in 8 times so to call based on pot odds there would have to be a lot of people in the pot ($30 bet versus $240 in the pot) to justify the call, which doesn't happen often. But if you factor in what you might get if it hits it, you can justify a looser call. Not exactly what we were talking about as its not a flush or straight and you're not really chasing it past the flop, but the principles are the same, I think.

you for sure want the right pot odds to call but take into consideration folding sometimes when the board is paired. you'll chase down your flush but still be beatin by a full house. most of the time i'd say dont chase at all for your flushes or straights, bet it right out like 60% of the pot or even raise a better 2 1/2 times their bet so as to fool them and not make it obvious that you are on draw. get paid off more that way or maybe get folds and just take it down without going to the turn or river.

Who the hell knows !

I had top 2 pair on flop the other night , bet 3/4 of the pot, get called. Turn, bet 3/4 of the pot get called, river checked it down and he bets about 1/3 of the pot, so i call and numb nuts had a flush with 89h in his hand, and ONE heart on the flop ...

What I usually do is after the flop comes out, and I have 4/5 of the hand to make a straight or a flush, I continue to play if the price is right. For example, I have 9h 10h, flop is 3h 5h 10d, in this case I have top pair and a flush draw and it is definitely worth it to even go all in on this hand. But you must take into consideration other factors as well such as the other players at the table (loose, calling station, tight, etc.)