When do you start to push?

#1 7th August 2008, 1:26 AM

I am currently in a $1 MTT on PokeStars and am $2000 below the average stack. I have 3200 in chips and the average is $4800. Blinds are 75/150.

That puts my M at 14

At what point do you start to push more hands or do you keep playing patient poker until your M gets under 10?

P.S. As I type this I just won two pots and am now at 5000 in chips (400 under the average) - blinds are 100/200 - 242/540

#2 7th August 2008, 1:34 AM

Start to push with decent suited connectors or Aces when your M gets below 10. Anything below 10 and you should be expected to get called with just about anything if they are big stacked

#3 7th August 2008, 1:35 AM

and my Aces i didn't mean AA, just about A/x if you have some position

#4 7th August 2008, 1:42 AM

I think that pushing with an M of 10 is not the best play by far. At this stage, you still have enough chips to choose your spots carefully. When the antes kick in, you can begin stealing in position, but I wouldn't be so concerned about getting your stack in with the amount of chips you have.

#5 7th August 2008, 1:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dufferdevon

I am currently in a $1 MTT on PokeStars and am $2000 below the average stack. I have 3200 in chips and the average is $4800. Blinds are 75/150.

That puts my M at 14

At what point do you start to push more hands or do you keep playing patient poker until your M gets under 10?

P.S. As I type this I just won two pots and am now at 5000 in chips (400 under the average) - blinds are 100/200 - 242/540

Think I may be in the same tourney, I just had to push with QQ and it held yaay. Got a large stack at my table mega raising with soooted cards of any kind.

I agree with shrog btw, do some watching see what hands are being played, only steal if you think your position and read on the guy is good.

Try to attack the weakest player who will fold almost any raise.

#6 7th August 2008, 7:17 AM

After watching and playing in the final two tables of this tourney, I realized that you need to tighten up your play considerably. I could not believe how long a supposed short stack lasted. Their M was under 5 but made it through quite a few orbits.

I need to have more patience the deeper I get into a MTT.

#7 7th August 2008, 8:06 AM

I wouldn't neccisarilly say that you HAVE to have more patience....I mean, it depends on if you want to move up a few spots and cash or a little higher or if you want the win. Personally, when I'm playing and it gets down to just a few tables I loosen up because I am always playing for the win. Now, sometimes this has caused me to go out earlier than I could have hung on for, but on the flipside it has also allowed me to cruise to a victory with quite the chip lead when we're down to 3 handed or HU. But that's just my oppinion.

#8 7th August 2008, 8:14 AM

10 big blinds is usually when i start to open shove, but at 10 M's is when i start looking for spots to make moves at. as for what range of hands im open shoving with or making moves with, depends on the table/position/how close to itm the tourney is/etc. so i cant really give you a specific answer for that.

#9 7th August 2008, 8:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chipchart

IPersonally, when I'm playing and it gets down to just a few tables I loosen up because I am always playing for the win. Now, sometimes this has caused me to go out earlier than I could have hung on for, but on the flipside it has also allowed me to cruise to a victory with quite the chip lead when we're down to 3 handed or HU. But that's just my oppinion.

I usually play looser too and play hands oop or more aggressively than I should. After watching the other players at the final table, you can wait for better hands (not to just make the more money or move up the standings). And while you wait, looser, more aggro players knock themselves out.

#10 7th August 2008, 4:05 PM

For sure duffer, after being the short stack going into the final table, after getting a few steals I let everyone play and got myself in a position that if I had played a bit better I could have won.

#11 7th August 2008, 7:14 PM

Nothing wrong with pushing as long as you have a hand. I don't see much advantage in pushing if you're just hoping to make a hand. I would be more inclined to remain patient and wait for the hand I felt confident in.

#12 7th August 2008, 7:18 PM

Yeah usually when I get to 8-10 big blinds left in a tourney (unless I'm trying to sneak into the money) I'll push with two face cards, suited connectors, or small pocket pairs pretty much hoping to either take it down or it to be a coinflip..

#13 8th August 2008, 5:02 AM

I usually push when I'm on the short stack or when I think my opponent has a weak hand.

#14 8th August 2008, 5:42 AM

be patient..that is alot of chips to still have in play....i think too many players dont realize how low they can go and still be able to double up and be in a good spot in a tourney...escpecially as the buble gets closer

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