When do people take money online seriously?

I've been playing online poker for over 2 years now. Never played a ring game over .25 & .50. And never played a SnG over $27 buyin with 9 people.
It seems that becasue the money is so low, no-one really cares or takes it as seriosuly as i do. I'm really trying to build a
proper bankroll but keep experiencing the worst players so playing good just doesnt work. At what level of ring games or SnG buy-ins
do peoples attitude change and they start treating the game more seriously?

OP, it is time for some tough love. Sorry.

The reason you are losing to bad players is not because they are bad, it's because you are not adjusting your play to them: we make money when opponents make mistake, not when we play sharks that play perfectly against us. To say so is ridiculous.

Study hard, log in the hands and plug the leaks: you'll come out a winner. Thinking that you cannot beat donks is indicative that you are not willing to change your game and that you think you know it all, while in fact, it may be the opposite.

I agree while, adjusting your play to someone else's style is very important, when it comes to poker, but the trueth is 5/10/20 ain't shit to some ppl, and because of that fact they'll continue to suckout constatnly and making bad reads/bad calls, preflop, wheather that's to an all in or a huge raise.If you really want better play I suggest that you just tighten your game up even more so then normal

^^this. And this.

25c/50c? Try 5c/10c or better yet 1c/2c. You wanna see chump change flying those are the stakes :P. I don't think it's really that people don't care. It's that some don't know better, others well they're maniacs, still more are having fun at your expense cuz they're loaded(drugs and/or cash).

Relax. Own that you're a solid player. A great player can make mince-meat of microstakes. But you're solid. It's good to be solid, heck I'm solid. Let's be happy being solid for a minute...

That's enough of that. On to the task at hand. Learn to use information(both given and bought), and uh, tighten up when it's right then loosen up when it's right. BTW I actually got better when I loosened up, but hey, to each their own.

Can I suggest moving to the lowest level then moving up level by level? I know it was just a test for you know who(He's my idol), but yeah, it's good for a bunch of us besides. I figured out 1c/2c(at a price) then moved up to 5c/10c on a hunch that info from 1c/2c would work there. So far so good. At any rate, lower stakes means cheap info, and more rivers seen(more hands to contemplate). It's fun and can be rewarding. Why not?

Only tables I've seen people play "serious" on is $50 and up. Cash tables and Sit'n'Gos

There will be less than serious players at any kind of online table. N.D. is right: people can be loaded or loaded :]

yes it is all relative. a big bankroll to one could be chump change to another. that is on-line.....you don't know who the other person is!!

We should embrace suckouts: the only time we lose to suckouts is when we got in good wich = profits.

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the worse the players the more money you make so you should be happy imo

Playing good against bad opponents does work.

I find that the level of play is not my problem it is the bad beats and suckouts at lower levels. If you find yourself constqntly going in with the best hand and still looseing at theese levels try ring games at different level but sitngos usealy are a level playing feild in my opinion.

LOL at moving up where they respect your raises.

I'll say it once more and for the last time:

You make money when your opponent makes a mistake (he plays his hand differently than he would he known what you had) not when you win a pot. No amount of suckouts is going to amount, in the long run (wich is so much longer than a lot of posters here realize), to losses if you constantly get your money in good.

To be fair we don't really know how good a player the OP is or what their BR is...

As to "respect my raises", I love that. I keep seeing folks not respect anyone else's raises but expecting everyone to respect theirs. LMAO, someone bet pot on me thinking they were pushing me off my A/K suited the other night. I made a standard pre-flop raise for on the button. I guess they had it in their head I was going to bluff. I flopped a flush draw(needing only 1 card to complete a flush), str8 draw(needing only one card to complete a str8), plus a royal flush draw(but royal flushes are like unicorns, I've never actually seen one, but only needed 2 cards to get a royal flush, hey it could happen).

In the dark I knew I had more than 9 outs total, cuz 9 outs for my hole cards + what I flopped(in terms of suit) and then more for the str8. I bet 1/2 the pot(which is again standard for me and it might be a bit of an overbet but it's usually enough to make someone fold with nothing ya know?), wanted to see what the response would be.

Only guy still in was a bit of a puzzle. Would call down almost anything with anything. This time he bet what he thought was pot only it wasn't. I called, got my str8 on the turn and he kept betting at me until I doubled up through him. The only things it made sense for him to be betting were lesser flush draws, lesser str8 draws, a pair, and trips(the only hand that would be even a little scary but providing he didn't get a boat or quads, hey who cares right?). That's why I called anyway.

Long story short(yeah right), he then proceeded to yell at me about what a horrible play I had just made. So I said "A/K suited's a drawing hand", he was still steaming, and I was all, "Hey I had outs, everyone sucks out sometime"(attempt to remind him of all his own suckage that night).

Funniest part is someone made their own positional standard raise earlier and the guy called with 9/4 os to suck out with 2 pair. Apparently because the pre-flop raiser had been in early position and thus not raised by much, it didn't translate in the guy's head to hey I have a good playable hand instead it translated to, that's just 15c more than my BB.

Hey I like that the guy didn't respect my raises and bets. I also enjoyed handing a bit of instant karma to him.

Then a new guy sat, didn't respect my post flop bet(had str8 on the flop), and he got runners to complete his flush which btw pre-flop was ooh diamonds pretty. I got it back no worries.

Point is, make a mental note and make sure whatever you have for a BR is enough to cover the losses. I tend to mark these guys with red stickies. I know they think they're the cat's meow at poker and even though I feel I'm only solid, I can still whoop them. Red = bullseye btw. My notes are color coded cuz I'm a dork like that.

Anyway new guy confided he lost $170 earlier that night at a higher level. He was clearly upset. Chat's my friend .

At any rate I've played in sng's too and they don't level the playing field. They just make u think they do because everyone starts with the same amount of chips. The kind of player they are(unless they can adapt quickly), remains the same, even in sngs. I know, people don't respect bets and raises unless they normally respect bets and raises.