what would you do in the BB in limit, with no raise???

Lets say your in the BB and there are no raises behind you, your holding suited cards, what would you do?
Raise it knowing you will end up getting called.
Check the hand, and see were you stand post flop.
Or fold, even tho you are getting a cheap view of the flop.

Here is a bit more info, one of the ones in the hand plays at .10/.20, and you pick up that he is c-betting, and does not hit, or he has been bluffing well on the button...
Now on the flop he c-bets.... now theres an ace plus you got your draw, would you call to see one more card, or fold?

Cards you hold 24SS....

I have ran it to this spot many times and always tend to fold, not call coz i am out of position, how would you deal with it ?

This is all about pot odds. If you have numerous callers, and a good suited ace or king, raise it up. Otherwise, just check. You are out of position and going to miss the flop too much with any two suited cards. If there are enough people and you have a strong enough suited hand, then the power of pot odds outweighs your disadvantage of position.

You did say BB with no raises to us right? When you say no raises behind, are you implying SB raised?

Again, pot odds. You have pot odds to call, then call. Otherwise, fold. Firing up pokerstove would be a good idea. Also, maybe post a hand on here? (You reference c-betting but in the beginning you said no raises but then you mentioned the possibility of folding so I may have this scenario completely wrong...)

No raises, your at a 6 max table, with 3 limper's..... And also you know the one at UTG1 raises with cards like 8Q....

why not see the free cards

Okay I have a little more to go by now. Oh, and I said this before too but use a hand converter and post some hands? Talking hypotheticals can only get you so far.

Short answer: You probably need about ATs+, KQs to raise.

This highly depends on opponent ranges (what proportion of hands they play), but running a stove with 3 opponents who play 30% of their hands (and we'll assume they don't have QQ+ because there is no raise and the most passive of people raise QQ+). Note that we are out of position so we need a little more equity to raise.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

16,886,654 games 18.549 secs 910,380 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.264% 27.80% 02.47% 4694424 416389.75 { ATs }
Hand 1: 23.239% 21.68% 01.56% 3661400 263028.92 { JJ-55, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, A5o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }
Hand 2: 23.231% 21.67% 01.56% 3659790 263300.83 { JJ-55, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, A5o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }
Hand 3: 23.266% 21.71% 01.56% 3666392 262635.50 { JJ-55, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, A5o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }

C-betting means someone preflop raised then was the first one to bet on the flop. Here this is not possible. I'm going to assume it's checked to the button who bets.


Short answer: Peel (call) the flop, turn is more complicated but most likely a peel. (Note: if you hit the turn, play it aggressive with a hand like 2s4s because other people probably have a redraw with higher single spades and you don't want to let them draw for free)

This is all about pot odds. In general, if you have a flush draw. You should almost always peel the flop. You have a 9/47 chance to hit your flush on the turn and if there are 5 small bets in the pot (4 limpers + the button flop bet), you are getting 5:1 to call (and probably many more from the people behind you as well as on the turn and river). In general, I like to have 6:1 implied odds (the amount of money you expect to be able to make for the entire hand) on a flush draw to continue. Turn should be the same kind of thinking.

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Ok, thanks, that helps out alot.....
Thought i even got a hand just like that well in the BB and played that way...