What should you do?

Lets say you are playing 10nl full ring and you're UTG and delt QQ. You open for 3x and it folds to the cutoff who three bets to 9x.

1. What do you do if villain is a 12/8/2?

2. What do you do if villain is a 29/14/1?

3. What do you do if villain is a 38/18/2?

4. What do you do if you have no reads on villian?

Lol I say auto fold, but I don't know what all those stats mean, just my 2 cents.

A. Call, see a flop, depending on the structure, Cbet or check flop. seems to be on the nitty side. Probably Reraising with a monster and no less.

B. Potential trap situation. I call, shove the flop again depending on the structure. A or K comes I slow down and Cbet probably the size of the pot.

C. Shove, simple as that. You are way ahead of his range.

D. Re-reraise. Hope he shoves, call and hope you are ahead.

I'm on the nitty side of the game though.

LOL

Nice try Pam!

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while I am at it

Classic!

Lol I was hoping to get that in before your last comment....<3 you guys!!!
Fold in cash game ftw.... all in in tourney!

LOL

Ok, back to being serious. I'm asking these questions for a reason I want to see what you all would do. And then talk about these situations in more detail. Thanks for going first Chiefer, and Pooffy, I'm looking for a more elaborate response.

LMAO STOP IT!!!!

I was serious, I would fold in cash, All in tourney.... and Chief was pretty elaborate, if you are seeking a book I suggest barnes and noble.

oh and thats my last comment while you are still my friend, lol

probs the most important stat is missing

3bet %

It's 10nl, not a lot of three betting going on. Assume 3 bet% to be zero or low for all.

fold
jam
jam
call

I didn't look at other responses ...
but I really need to know what the 3bet frequency is on these guys.

For example if we have 3k hands on each one of these villains and every single one of them 3bets 1%, then i just FOLD.

No reads at all I'm probably 4betting to 27BB.

Assume no more than 150 hands. Assume three bet to be zero or really low.

I am a cash fish and it will probably show through,but here goes.

I am going to assume both players have 100 bb

1.I put him on a very tight range AA,KK,QQ,Ak so I think Im behind or flipping however I have 3 bb in and need to call 6 more to set mine and if i hit he has 91 more bb.I think I call and see the flop .

2. I would add jj, aq to his range but I think I still set mine.If Ace or K flops Im not out that much.If Qs are overs to the flop than Ill see how the action goes post flop.

3. Im reraising to 20 bb,I think Im way ahead of his range.

4.I would call and check the texture of the flop and take it from there.


Let me be the 1st to LOL my answers



Snow

1. What do you do if villain is a 12/8/2?
Assuming we have a meaningfull number of hands on this player, this man never 3 bets a utg raiser with less than AK. Given his AF I have to assume that he has AA or KK. Even at $10nl

2. What do you do if villain is a 29/14/1?
Again, that AF scares me, but if it's the default setting then it only applies to post flop play. I call and hope to see low cards.

3. What do you do if villain is a 38/18/2?
I probably raise. I don't like shoving with a hand this weak. It's a good hand vs his range but still, caution is advised. If he reshoves I probably call prepaired to rebuy or quit for the night

4. What do you do if you have no reads on villian?
Without a read on him I'm most likely ahead but 3 bets always represent strength. I just call. If the flop comes all low I might consider a checkraise.

weak? 3rd best starting hand in the game wtf!

What do the specific numbers mean again?

Thanks!

VPIP/PFR/AF

I'm not much of a FR player, and haven't played $10NL in awhile.
What I remember though was that very few people were creative enough to 3-bet light.

So you open to $.30 UTG and he pops it up to $.90 in the cutoff?

Assuming there's no special reason to assume the player is steaming, and assuming he's full-stacked...

#1 I pause a long time then fold. If we are each deep with $13 or so instead of $10 I call. Tight people like this at $10NL love stacking off with overpairs. So calling $.60 more cents to win his remaining $12 seems okay with me.

#2 He's in the pot a lot, but he's not very aggressive and he's not going to be dumb enough/creative enough to be doing this light. So I guess I fold.

#3 I say "F-You" to the screen and 4-bet him. Then I fold if he shoves back. (You open to $.30, he 3-bets to $.90, you 4-bet to $3.25, he shoves, you fold.)

#4 Again, few people are creative enough to 3-bet light. At $10NL I think A/K usually calls here. I pause and fold.

Yes weak. I just had my UTG raise reraised. Yes it may be the 3rd best starting hand in the game, it may also be the 2nd best in this hand. I think I want to see a flop.

supreme nittiness ITT!

whats your plan if the board comes like 259 two toned? if you check/raise he is just going to jam JJ+ maybe even 10s but fold out AK which he may stack preflop. so your crushed by AA/KK so what thats 2 hand combo's by 4betting here you picked up dead money if he folds and probs pick off AK which is added to a hand your slightly ahead of.

If your not stack queens here vs players 2 and 3 that is just horrible IMO, how can you fold QQ vs two fish your meant to be adjusting to player types and only stacking AA/KK pre vs the 12/8 yeah fine but against the other two cumon guys!

also 150 hands is nothing for your 3bet stat to show some worthwhile, vanq posted somewhere about where HUD's can hinder your game this is a spot for some dudes here QQ vs a fish ffs just get it in.

1.Fold
2.4bet/call
3.4bet/call.
4.4bet/call

It dosent matter how good your hand is.. just how tight their 3-bet range is.

If I told you my 3-bet range was just AA would you still look at QQ and say '3rd best hand.. I have to shove!'

At 10NL there are a very very large group of players who 3-bet only AA/KK and maybe AK

QQ is behind this range.

Until a player's range is around 5-6% hands like QQ/JJ do not fair all that well.

Actualy against a 2.6% range QQ is favorite and with the dead money that allready in the pot after a raise and a 3bet stacking of can never be a big mistake.

we are over 150 hands which means for our 3bet % has no where near any relevance.

I cant believe how you are finding folds vs fish here wtf!

I dont know where you play 10NL.. but most of the people I have any more than 2K hands on (at 10NL) have 3-bet %s of under 3%.

Most of the time its unusual to see a 3-bet figure >0!

I play FR.. maybe this differs to 6-max.

I know what you are saying but you would need a large sample to make a decision this accurate. The 5-6% figure denotes some range wider than AA/KK/AK

a 2.6% range could more easily be a player playing AA/KK/AK and just getting delt KK twice in a row!

i played 10nl 8 months ago at stars

a persons 3bet range isnt simply the top 2.6% of hands or top 5/6% of hands.

we have 37% equity vs AA/KK/AK aswell if he has them w.e. but not 4betting here is bad IMO + we have fold equity vs these dudes.

I saw people stacking JJ,AQ,10s,AJ all other broadway combo's and Ax kinda hands when I played 10nl.

u mean ur fistpumping right?

plus, what are our stats?

10nl is like the old west. You don't know who is behind that gun, a greenhorn or a gunslinger.

1. What do you do if villain is a 12/8/2? SuperNit, call and reevaluate on flop, i.e.set mining.

2. What do you do if villain is a 29/14/1? Reraise, call a shove with fingers crossed.

3. What do you do if villain is a 38/18/2? Call and play this sucker for all that his chip chasing ass will handle.

4. What do you do if you have no reads on villian? Call and reevaluate on flop.