What kind of volume do you need?

#1 25th March 2011, 4:20 PM

Hey, I'm pretty new to multi tabling cash games. I'm more sng/mtt type player but decided to give it a go.
I'm 9 tabling 6max at 5/10 on Stars. Basically I wanted to know if this is a big enough sample to judge whether I can make a good profit or not.
I know there is leaks I need to fix which I am already trying to address.

#2 25th March 2011, 4:43 PM

Its extremely difficult to put a figure on how many hands, but safe to say the more hands you have then the more accurate your true winrate will become.

You should be looking at a min of 50k hands to even make any assumptions about your winrate.

#3 25th March 2011, 6:09 PM

Yeah you need to put alot more hands in but it's going well so far. If you're still winning at quite a large rate like that after 25k hands then you're probs a winner. If you're winrate drops a bit then after 50k hands you'll have a better idea.

Also, just make enough money so that you can move up if you feel you're playing well.

#4 25th March 2011, 6:10 PM

The more I play the more I'm convinced that you need massive sample sizes to gain anything about your overall win rates. 50K hands is no-where near that imo.

More like 500K.

#5 25th March 2011, 6:17 PM

Thanks for the input guys. Ill post back after 50k hands and maybe get a better idea.

#6 25th March 2011, 6:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenbob

The more I play the more I'm convinced that you need massive sample sizes to gain anything about your overall win rates. 50K hands is no-where near that imo.

More like 500K.

Yeah this for sure, in reality 50k is nowhere near enough. But I put this figure on b/c basically no one ever believes you when you say like 500k hands or 1 mill or whatever. At least when you say 50k, and even then its prolly nowhere near enough, they get the idea that variance sucks and yeah theyre on a heater.

Also, at least with 50k hands your stats will at least have some structure to them and from that we can make assumptions of whether they have a winning style or not.

#7 26th March 2011, 2:35 AM

That makes me feel much better to know you also think you need a large volume of hands. I probably play 50,000 hands a month and am up some months and down others. But if I look over the last 10 months (since I started playing a lot of low stakes cash), I am up over those 500,000 hands. I know I want to see another 6 months myself (300,000 hands) as my play was ragged over the first several months of this experiment. I find the low stakes to be a bit of the wild wild west, but it has been a fun ride the majority of the time.

#8 26th March 2011, 7:13 AM

I'm not sure about you, but I need one of those volume knobs that goes up to 11, not 10 but 11. You do know that 11 is one more than 10 and it better than one that only goes up to 10. (If you haven't seen spinal tap this probably seems very stupid. If you have it probably still seems stupid, but at least you get the reference) Sorry, I couldn't resist when I saw the title of the post.

#9 26th March 2011, 8:57 AM

What he said, and don't forget to use Dobley.

#10 26th March 2011, 10:09 AM

What's your stats when 9 tabling 6 max?

#11 28th March 2011, 1:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poker d player

I'm not sure about you, but I need one of those volume knobs that goes up to 11, not 10 but 11. You do know that 11 is one more than 10 and it better than one that only goes up to 10. (If you haven't seen spinal tap this probably seems very stupid. If you have it probably still seems stupid, but at least you get the reference) Sorry, I couldn't resist when I saw the title of the post.

lolz great movie

#12 28th March 2011, 4:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poker d player

I'm not sure about you, but I need one of those volume knobs that goes up to 11, not 10 but 11. You do know that 11 is one more than 10 and it better than one that only goes up to 10. (If you haven't seen spinal tap this probably seems very stupid. If you have it probably still seems stupid, but at least you get the reference) Sorry, I couldn't resist when I saw the title of the post.

6/10.

If you hadn't explained yourself then the post would have been an 8/10 easy. WP.

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