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  Poker - what to do on a aggressive table?
 
  #1  
13-01-2008, 6:56 AM
maverick7192
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what to do on a aggressive table?

What is the best strategy to do playing in a MTT on a very aggressive table? I'm just waiting for good cards, but when ever I get say.. pocket 9's I'll raise and then I'll get put all in. It is very aggravating
 

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13-01-2008, 10:08 AM
SubT33
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You have to pick your spots. If it's a freeroll just call them who cares. If not, pick your spots. Pocket 9's arent the best hand anyway, wait for a better hand and eventually you'll sting them.
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13-01-2008, 12:37 PM
beardyian
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This is when you need patience - play tight and play position [button SB & BB etc]

When you do (hopefully) pick up a decent hand do not be afraid to show aggression in your own game, make them have to decide on what to do.

If they see you are prepared to go to war with your hands they should be more careful the next time you get a hand

GL
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13-01-2008, 4:00 PM
crzycal
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I find it good sometimes not to play for the first few rounds to try and get a read on the other players. Patience you will need. Then when I get a good gut feeling then I will call. Then I step up my game and try to play skill rather then get fustrated even if it means folding good posibilities.
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13-01-2008, 4:08 PM
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Discipline,and patience.One bad call--or one bad chase and your finished.
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13-01-2008, 4:39 PM
switch0723
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play tight and play position [button SB & BB etc]
Sb and BB are in the worst position on the flop, so you cant really place position from these seats.
  #7  
13-01-2008, 5:41 PM
nevadanick
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Originally Posted by maverick7192 View Post
What is the best strategy to do playing in a MTT on a very aggressive table? I'm just waiting for good cards, but when ever I get say.. pocket 9's I'll raise and then I'll get put all in. It is very aggravating
Sure sounds like a freeroll with the all-ins you're describing. That's not what I would call 'aggressive table'. Early hands, it's a 'free-for-all' table. Wait for a better hand (than even pocket 9's). Bet your hands when you get the chance. Even on the multi-way all-in tables, there are hands that will play without an all-in.

The early hands are what I call the DCH hands (Donkey Clearing House) and I avoid most of them. Even calling the all-in from bad position with pocket A's can get you an early ticket to the rail.

Pocket 9's are easily foldable to the all-inners. Patience, patience, patience. If those 9's ARE the best hand you ever see, you weren't destined to take that one down anyway. GL.
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13-01-2008, 7:40 PM
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i aloways play tight against agressive players but when i notice he makes a massive bet like on every flop! i fold 5 or 6 times when i dont hit the flop.
when he does it again i go over the top most of the time they have to fold because of ur tight image! i just say to myself players most of the time mis the flop instead of hitting something!
every once in a while bullying the bully helps ur table image and ur game
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13-01-2008, 8:09 PM
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two words... SMALL BALL
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13-01-2008, 8:26 PM
T_inc
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two words...ehhh what?
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13-01-2008, 8:50 PM
beardyian
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It means dont get too involved with big pots too often, stick to picking up smaller easier pots where you can and build you stack that way.

ie. dont go for the home run each time, fill the bases and pick up runs that way.
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13-01-2008, 10:19 PM
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dont go for the home run each time, fill the bases and pick up runs that way.
Oooh I like that one

But yea, wait until you hit your monster, lay down some swiss pull back the spring and get yourself some mice
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13-01-2008, 11:53 PM
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Pay attention to the hands people are playing - "aggressive" is only half the story. Are people playing loose-aggressive, or tight-aggressive.

If they're playing tight aggressive, then you've just gotta pick your spot. Get a good hand and shove the chips in there.

If they're playing loose aggressive, you can open your hand requirements up a bit. 99 might be a hand you could play back with, for example, if people are going hard with hands like K8s.
  #14  
13-01-2008, 11:58 PM
Critter183
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Originally Posted by OzExorcist View Post
Pay attention to the hands people are playing - "aggressive" is only half the story. Are people playing loose-aggressive, or tight-aggressive.

If they're playing tight aggressive, then you've just gotta pick your spot. Get a good hand and shove the chips in there.

If they're playing loose aggressive, you can open your hand requirements up a bit. 99 might be a hand you could play back with, for example, if people are going hard with hands like K8s.
I second that.
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14-01-2008, 4:39 AM
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If there's a lot of LAGs at your table what you do is simple. NEVER bluff, but when you play a hand, you have to play a bit looser and more decisively. For example, you have to play middle pair more aggressive against a LAG than against a more passive player, since a LAG player won't let you check it down to let you see if your middle pair is good. Also, slowplay more against a LAG, since it will work very well, you'll often get them to bluff you. And chase more draws since you are more likely to get paid off if you hit a draw against a LAG. And you can call them with weaker hands than usual since they will be raising with weaker hands.
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14-01-2008, 4:52 AM
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Playin 99 early in freeroll tournies

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Originally Posted by nevadanick View Post
Sure sounds like a freeroll with the all-ins you're describing. That's not what I would call 'aggressive table'. Early hands, it's a 'free-for-all' table. Wait for a better hand (than even pocket 9's). Bet your hands when you get the chance. Even on the multi-way all-in tables, there are hands that will play without an all-in.

The early hands are what I call the DCH hands (Donkey Clearing House) and I avoid most of them. Even calling the all-in from bad position with pocket A's can get you an early ticket to the rail.

Pocket 9's are easily foldable to the all-inners. Patience, patience, patience. If those 9's ARE the best hand you ever see, you weren't destined to take that one down anyway. GL.
I have to disagree on playin pocket 9s here....alot of times freerollers are going all in with AK to AJ and maybe A10 early in these tournies....multi way all ins tell me that another tag might be flippen with any paired holecards......you have 99 and maybe 1 or two all ins with range of AK to AJ....two aces are used......with one tag flippin Pairs.....in my opinion I call or push 99.......pot is freakin huge...i think you would be an average skilled freeroller if you fold in this situation.

Last edited by Kennyseven : 14-01-2008 at 4:53 AM. Reason: no title
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15-01-2008, 5:20 AM
nevadanick
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I have to disagree on playin pocket 9s here....alot of times freerollers are going all in with AK to AJ and maybe A10 early in these tournies....multi way all ins tell me that another tag might be flippen with any paired holecards......you have 99 and maybe 1 or two all ins with range of AK to AJ....two aces are used......with one tag flippin Pairs.....in my opinion I call or push 99.......pot is freakin huge...i think you would be an average skilled freeroller if you fold in this situation.
Never thought of myself as 'average skilled freeroller' - lol. Yep, pot is huge and so is the ticket to the door. 'Early' in a freeroll, would be nice if hands were as you described, but more often than not, early all-ins are ATC. Multi-way pot, all-in = coin flip at best.

If you want to bet the farm in a multi-way pot with 9's - have at it. There's another FR in 10 minutes somewhere. GL on the flat screen felt.
  #18  
16-01-2008, 1:07 AM
NoWuckingFurries
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The early hands are what I call the DCH hands (Donkey Clearing House) and I avoid most of them. Even calling the all-in from bad position with pocket A's can get you an early ticket to the rail.
If you're going all-in before the flop, why does it make any difference what position you're playing?
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16-01-2008, 8:03 AM
PoochMasterFlex
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i just played at a very aggressive table in the paris casino when i was in vegas last weekend. I played 3 hands in 2 hours and won 240 dollars in a 1 2 no limit.

I waited till i had kings, AK, and AQ suited. not bad since i started with 60 bucks. I was in a race with my AK and won against pocket 10's. My strategy was two card poker and play them very aggressive preflop.
  #20  
17-01-2008, 4:45 PM
nevadanick
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If you're going all-in before the flop, why does it make any difference what position you're playing?
Thanks for noticing my error... replace 'bad' with 'any'. (I wrote incorrectly: "Even calling the all-in from bad position") Doesn't matter what position. All-in is very often all-out.
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