What cash table level should I play at with a BR of $50?

Topic. I've had enough with seeing people donk up in SnG's and wanna try my hand at cash tables for a while. What should I start at? 1-2nl? 2-4nl?

2nl until you have at least $100.

Ty. And no, I didn't go broke. I lied. I still have $50 as my BR.

Ok i'm about as level headed as they come since iv'e been grown but this is too much Fox.
I very much against banning posters.This as been a little too much for me even

What?

Man your trolling...right?
a lot of people including WV have gave you some solid advice.It might seem sharp but it's solid advice non the less.
It comes across like your just ****ing around and not wanting help.

Why would I be ASKING for help if I don't want it?

JB is drunk.

Well, I'll try devoting some of my BR to cash games and see if it goes any better.

Why would you ignore it?
WV has gave you VERY solid advice.Keep it in mind it may seem harsh, but the truth sometimes is. On a side note i give him the up most respect as a man because he has honered his word with me every time on side bets etc.Actually i trust him on money bets etc. than i do my real world friends.

So you claimed to have went busto by losing 40 BI in a row playing 6 man SNGs, but that was all a lie and you have $50? I don't understand, why lie?

Anyways:

Lol. He didn't say anything wrong ITT. I appreciate the kind words but honestly he just asked for advice and if he actually starts listening to ALL the good advice he's been given he may just avoid going busto.

Yes ,Yes i am

Yeah the other 2 threads he started and the way this one started made me jump to the conclusion plus
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I'm trying, but having downswings of 5 or 6 BI's in SnG's because of suckouts doesn't help. And yeah, they are suckouts. I've made a few questionable plays, but I almost always get my money in good. But when all the cards fell against you...

Getting your money in good all most all the time in cash is great.If your getting your money in good all the time in SNG's thats bad.It means you haven't got a full grasp of the shove fold concept yet.Maybe PO,or Wizzm could help ya with that.

Shove/fold concept?

Post some all in hands in the tourney HA section of the forum.
Post some of your problems in the monthly tourney section of the forum etc.
Yeah it just means sometimes given the action if it folds around to you,you should fold or shove any two cards(atc) depending on your M.

I don't fully understand what you mean, that's something I already take advantage of given the table action. But something to note, if I fall into the orange or red M-zone, I'm pretty much getting it all-in preflop. I usually don't play a flop in orange/red unless I'm getting damn good odds or I'm in a position to trap one player with a big hand.

What he's saying is that you can't be shoving wide enough or you'd be getting called by better hands fairly often. You know like it folds to you in LP with 12bbs and you shove K4s but get called by AK in the SB.

I hate to give you bad info ,as i'm not a mtt/sng grinder but it goes something like how close you are to the bubble/icm blah blah blah.Stack vs blind ratio etc.
say your in a 9 person sng 6 left blinds are 75/150 you have 1700 you get dealt 84 given how the blinds calling ranges are you can shove an it's + ev.

arggg some one can correct me if i'm wrong.I still think this is how all the sng grinders construct there range is through this.
http://www.sngwiz.com/tiki/tiki-index.php
I think there is still a free trail btw

In that range I shove with AK, AQ, AJ or A10 if its suited, KQ suited QJ suited, J10 suited (favorite hand), and any pair that's 8's or higher. That's my general range in yellowM.

No wonder your getting killed this should be mid to high end of your calling range..................................

And that's what JB was saying you're not shoving wide enough in that spot.

Like I should shove weaker hands, or fold them?

In late position (which most of the blind steals happen) it all depends on the blinds calling range.You have to construct them yourself.Lets say BB has you covered 4k to your 1.7k 6 left he has been calling with what seems to be atc.You are dealt QJo on the BTN blinds 75/150 you ??????????
Should shove till your hearts content....

I see sean,and campbell lurking they prob more help than me i've only played `~10k or so of sng's

Why would you be tired of donks?

Lol. You're going to find donks a plenty at 2nl as well, but stick with it and it should be very profitable.

Also, you mentioned you're tired of 5-6BI downswings in SNGs. Swings of 5-6BI are standard in cash games too, so be prepared for that

IMHO, the micros are not much better when it comes to donks but if this is the direction you're going then 2nl is what you should play.

.....pick yourself up and keep playing.

As said previously you arent getting your money nearly enough if you almost always get your money in good. There are situations in these games where you MUST go all in with weak hands.

That range is far too tight, you are missing out on profitable situations by only playing these hands and you are leaving yourself open to be blinded down waiting for these cards. You must play against the player a lot of the time in later stages of sngs and forget about your cards, If I think I could get someone to fold their blind when I have 72o I will shove it. Obv if youre called its bad news but thats why you need to pay attention to how light someone will call your shove. Stack sizes are also hugely important late in sngs as you dont want to shove light vs a big stack who calls light or a shortie who needs to accumulate chips ugently and is willing to take a chance.
Its best to post hands in the forum and get the players here to critique your plays as this will be the best way to learn imo. even reading other people hand histories and seeing how people think they should have played the hand I find very helpful, it may help you in situations that you have never come accross before and thus you are better prepared when you do find yourself in the same spot.

The problem is the RNG. What good is making profitable decisions if you still lose by the river even when you have the best hand preflop or postflop? I'm really getting sick of Merge, it just seems like the worst hand ALWAYS wins a showdown, even when dominated.

start calling shoves with 610,Q4 etc. then easy game