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Beasty2k
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Try and not see this as a "when to c-bet, when not to"-thread, as I know normally what boards are safer than others.
Often when reading strategy or hand analysis, people say "that hits a big part of his range, but not ours" etc etc etc. I would like to specify this a bit more as I am struggling in 3-bet pots at the moment (which I guess I shouldn't be because ranges are more narrow).
I realize there are certain boards that are better to cbet, check / float, raise. But I thought it could be an interesting discussion on what boards hit certain ranges. I guess we could get into detail on what specific player types affect ranges (a loose passive fish can have anything, and so on), but just on a general basis? Any comments you might have would be much appreciated.
A good TAG will know when the board hits his perceived range better, and will therefore be more inclined to float/raise here. If we know this, then we can more often assume that he may well be floating/raising light, and use that against him.
For instance, 6-max UTG+1 raises 3bb, we 3-bet 9x on the BTN, UTG+1 calls. Board comes J92 rainbow. Is this a good board to c-bet or does it hit his range too hard? If it is, he may well be floating this light.
Or, say we 3-bet from the SB and original raiser calls IP (this tends to happen to me a lot, which is why I have started flatting strong hands in blinds - makes me lose less if I miss and pot is not bloated if I c/c/c). Flop comes 57Q. I would c-bet here too but will have to play rest of hand OOP without much equity if called.
So what are examples of boards that should hit villian's range when:
1) TAG calls 3-bet IP.
2) TAG calls 3-bet OOP.
3) Nit calls 3-bet IP.
4) Nit calls 3-bet OOP.
5) any other comments? fish can have anything.
Sorry for the messy post but I really hope someone understands what I am after and that there are some gurus out there willing to help. Thanks.
Often when reading strategy or hand analysis, people say "that hits a big part of his range, but not ours" etc etc etc. I would like to specify this a bit more as I am struggling in 3-bet pots at the moment (which I guess I shouldn't be because ranges are more narrow).
I realize there are certain boards that are better to cbet, check / float, raise. But I thought it could be an interesting discussion on what boards hit certain ranges. I guess we could get into detail on what specific player types affect ranges (a loose passive fish can have anything, and so on), but just on a general basis? Any comments you might have would be much appreciated.
A good TAG will know when the board hits his perceived range better, and will therefore be more inclined to float/raise here. If we know this, then we can more often assume that he may well be floating/raising light, and use that against him.
For instance, 6-max UTG+1 raises 3bb, we 3-bet 9x on the BTN, UTG+1 calls. Board comes J92 rainbow. Is this a good board to c-bet or does it hit his range too hard? If it is, he may well be floating this light.
Or, say we 3-bet from the SB and original raiser calls IP (this tends to happen to me a lot, which is why I have started flatting strong hands in blinds - makes me lose less if I miss and pot is not bloated if I c/c/c). Flop comes 57Q. I would c-bet here too but will have to play rest of hand OOP without much equity if called.
So what are examples of boards that should hit villian's range when:
1) TAG calls 3-bet IP.
2) TAG calls 3-bet OOP.
3) Nit calls 3-bet IP.
4) Nit calls 3-bet OOP.
5) any other comments? fish can have anything.
Sorry for the messy post but I really hope someone understands what I am after and that there are some gurus out there willing to help. Thanks.