Video: Yet another 6max 25nl 4 tabling session

Hi guys

Finally got a video made. Not sure if there's much there of use except for me banging on about how bad players at 25nl are !

Any comments welcomed.

HUD:-
Name / Hands / bb/100
VPIP / PFR / AF / AFF / AFT / AFR
ATS / FBB / 3B / F3B / LC
CB / FCB / TC / FTC / WTSD / W$SD

1st vid 2%3bet looks like ~JJ+AKs
lol at the guy folding when the A hits the river an he has ~2 left in is stack.About to watch the 2nd.
2nd vid funny as hell well done.

Yeah and the way it played out he had either JJ or QQ for sure. AKs was possible... until the river lol

About that guy donking into me on table 4; I found out a little later that he was full of it when I had like TPMK and called him down. However, I'm finding at 25nl quite a few players will donk when they hit the board hard (as opposed to c/c or c/r), which is really sporting of them to let me know to fold or know I'm likely to get paid off with my monsters.

Having said that, my AJo hand against that guy was pathetic on my part.

Good video mate

Thanks for the vids, very nice and if that's how you play when you are tired... well... wonder how your A game is.

You made some comments on how to play, vbet big, don't be scared, don't bluff. It's not that different from 2NL even which I found very interesting to hear. I guess the main difference is the amount of fish. Do you ever get a table full of fish?

Your thoughts on playing draws are also very interesting since it's pretty useless to play draws aggressivelly against villains with no fold button. I'll play and raise draws OTF against nits, regs and villains that cbet more than they should. I never flat SC against fish. I will open with SC or steal with SC if the villains behind me are more on the passive side.

Thanks. A table FULL of fish at 25nl? Not normally no. I find that you can get at least 2 really weak players at a table if you table select well. TBH even when I took my shot at 50nl I was surprised by the level of play (i.e. not that good).

The 'regs' at 25nl tend to be easy to beat because they are weak tight. Those you can take off a lot of hands with turn raises/river shoves etc. But the stations really have to be punished lol

Agree about chasing draws. They allow you to be aggressive and still have monster outs. Much nicer than doing it with total air. So, I bet with draws and made hands and lay off the air until I'm against someone who knows how to fold a lot more. Flatting SCs for me will happen if they are high cards with position (QJs), or MW and/or deep.

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AJo I wouldn't 3b but you already say that in-play.
For the record 2% 3b is TT+ or JJ+,AKs but I don't know if 4betting or flatting is best here.
I'd double barrell the K56 as he's likely floating a lot or has a small PP he'll fold to a double barrell and when the diamond hits you get another 9 outs to add to the ace.

Nice vid certainly improved your play a lot since the 10nl video. Put in enough volume and you'll start earning some real $$$ (or €€€ for you).

just watched have a bunch of notes, you want me to post here or skype?

Here please, so we can all have a look and maybe benefit. Cheers.

Detailed/Nit Picky notes

Im at work and writing up notes which are scruffy and brief so ask if they dont make sense as I cant link them to the situations atm

Summary/general......tl;dr

• Good solid thought process but sometimes you try and talk yourself into thinking otherwise, which you may follow through with when running bad. EG flatting A4s OOP @ ~9mins + debating whether to flat other SCs OOP
• Table selection, very good + always looking for a reason to be at the table (a big leak of some players IMO)
• Cbet sizes based on board texture can be adjusted
• Take your time when making decisions, snapping + auto folding
• Open BTN more
• Note take further in spots
• Could use raise first in % in HEM to get better idea of positional ranges rather than overall vpip/pfr numbers

~56 secs - A7o - Flat IP vs a 27/11 retard BVB, he will play so easy postflop IP especially when new to the table

3:57 - Optional 3bet of K9o here, early in session build an image

4.45 - AA - 4bet size is huge, id go to ~5.5 here not 7, I would adjust if he was a super fish like the guy on table 2 to 7 but not villian here

5:30 - 99 - way smaller cbet $1 max

6.55 - A9o - raise or fold donk bet

7.38 - AJo - flat, thought process is correct after the hand, folds out all Ax we beat etc

8.18 - Q7s - dont auto fold 17/13 in blinds

9:03 - A2s - fold, dominated OOP, c/f so much on flops vs UTG range even though hes bad, if we were IP then flat maybe

9.32 - AJs - ISO bigger here 5x min vs 2 fish

KK - shove flop, still calling overs, turn bad stack sizes + action killing cards, may call you off thinking you some kind of draw w/AK

10:43 - J8s - raise nits + IP vs fish

13.20 - dont bet river vs this kinda guy 35/19 love to call, nit reg then yeah but he is NEVER folding a K. I dont mind check back flop or doubling as played, inc equity etc fold out mid/small pairs, Ax (like he had AJ lol, note this too)

AA 3bet maybe abit bigger vs a 33/18 ~$3

*Stop attempting to play SC's vs UTG opens OOP* thats what my note reads lol

Part 2

1.52 - K9o - dont auto fold here, look at blinds 13/11 and 16/11

2.47 - A9s - bet a more value size ~$2.30 (cant remember the hand at work but I think you turn or river an A?)

Ax BTN raise

3.30 - Stop hitting auto fold with nits in blinds - 69s, 8Ts perfectly playable

7.03 - flat so fish can come along too in BB 34/19 , 31% steal

my notes are now really brief and dont make sense to me but maybe they will with the video

K5s - bet smallish ~ 80 cents

9To - ISO, its not about the fact your going to be making hands its the fact he will be limp/calling and c/f a tonne, this is where you make money

9Ts - fold or raise donk - as played what do you think his calling range for river is here considering his donking, c/c turn line? bet smaller getting calls from 7x/8x

AJs - Use "raise first in" in HEM to get an idea of his MP range. Flat to get fish to come along OTB with weaker Ax and SCs

QJo - raise for value + he will be c/f alot of flops

AJo - why no cbet? dry board 28Tr I think?

some cracking reactions to flops/players lines, good watch

Fck me Jurn mate, thanks a bunch... I've just skimmed it, but I'll have to go through it all along with the vids later to give some follow up to this. Awesome job, thanks.

np, helps me too tbh because all that is my thought process in your situation so I get feedback too

also forgot to mention, your HUD is hugeeeeeee, do you use it all?

Kinda... in fact I was then wondering how to fit in open by position % lol

What's your HUD look like?

(I've copied your post and will go through it with questions/comments soon, once I watch the vids again)

Forget that, I see it's in the popup. But still would be interested to know what you use in your HUD. I feel like I use my most of my HUD, but maybe aggression by street is the least useful.

Looking forward to watching these mate, firstly i need to get my internet fixed as its currently going slower than dial up ffs! But once that is sorted (hopefully today) i shall watch!

I shall also be playing poker again, its been over 2 weeks and i cant let you be a 50nl reg first can i

But yeah your HUD is pretty huge im sure i said that on the last video of yours i watched Aggression by street seems pretty pointless unless you have **** loads of hands and even then if you wanted to use it you could just use the pop-up?

HUD:


Its just
VPIP/PFR/AG
3B/CB/FCB
Steal/ F3b UTG/F3b MP/F3b CO/F3b BTN/F3b SB

I tend to use my popups way more as I find its better for me to make situational decisions rather than ones based on overall stats.
EG - Steal %, here I use the pop up for the different CO, BTN and SB %'s
Raise First In - Positional raises based on position rather than overall PFR, can therefore exploit people deeper by position, 3betting + Flatting IP.

I have fold to 3bets in my HUD as its easier, a good one is F3B combined with PFR, especially UTG, people have super high f3bets say like 85%+ UTG but an opening range of 15% which means they are only continuing with the top 2.5ish % of that range. Factor in some card removal when Im sitting with A4s for example and it makes it a nice spot to 3bet considering, blinds stacks etc.
How do you feel with 99 getting 3bet from BTN? say you flat even (bad dont do it) , flop comes KT2r , WTF you going to do cbet? It makes it incredibly hard for them to play OOP in 3bet pot.

Sounds good, I will hopefully be making more vids when Im back at uni!

In what way? You mean I should adjust my bet sizes as a function of board texture as opposed to a standard one size fits all or the exploitable hand strength bet? If so, could you expand on this?

Noted... something I will work on.

Noted... something I will work on!

Could you give me an example?

TOP TIP, thanks.

Agreed.

But they look so nice and stuff... hehe... yeah you're right !

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed)

UTG ($26.85)
MP ($52.84)
CO ($36.09)
Button ($24.27)
SB ($41.12)
Hero (BB) ($25.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 9
3 folds, Button bets $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 6, 3, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($1.60) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, Button calls $1.50

River: ($4.60) A (2 players)
Hero bets $3.40, 1 fold

Total pot: $4.60

Results:
Hero had A, 9 (two pair, Aces and sevens).
Outcome: Hero won $7.70

So you're saying I should bet less because I want a call from 55 or something? My bet sizing is often screwy. Any good articles you know of on bet sizing?

This is something you tend to do as a rule ?

Got to say I mostly agree with your thoughts now I've been through it again.

It's officially a race ! (6max though... I mean almost anyone could hang around at 50nl FR for a few thousand hands )

Hey, my HUD is a work of art (not as nice as Jurn's though). Yeah I'm going to prune it down I guess. I'll start by dropping aggression by street to see how I handle the loss, and then go from there if I'm not too psychologically damaged.

ICbet size, In spots such as the 99 hand where you say, Im one and done and you bet (I think, wild guess ) about 1.30 into 1.60 on ATx?
$1 accomplishes the same thing and saves monies when he binks the A or T, either way hes not folding or raising. Its a real nit pick but over the long run could save you money.

geezer that c/c AJo OOP, on Kxx board, we can then know if the hand repeated exactly the same to barrell our equity as Ax is in his flop c/c range. Like you do with donk bets is good solid note taking

well his c/c range will probs inc 6x, 7x, small pairs, maybe stuff like 89, A3,A5,A4 with gutters, his calling range once you bomb this river will probs be better Ax's and 7x . Id go like 2.5 or something.

Bah tbh, Im a little unsure here now due to the combos of Ax he may call with a gutter, I cant remember what his stats were. If he is also a reg and you have abit of aggro then players may check back, call here with like 88 and you then lose value.
We shall maybe have to look at combos of hands?

with those blinds you had yeah, I fold like A4 - A7 on occassions BVB vs aggro reg

Im gunna look at this A9 hand as I think this maybe a leak of mine

Right i've watched the video! Can i just say you're a funny ****ing man. You remind me of that JJ video i sent you, when you explain what you want to happen or whats going to happen and then it doesn't happen you're like OH ****, OH SHIT!

Haven't got too much to add unfortunately as im a bit late in watching and theres already been some good points.

7.47 table 1, you 3bet AJ against a tight player with a wide range, but you corrected yourself after i spent time writing the note down so im telling you anyway! think before you 3bet ha ha.

9.17 - had that maniac to your right so you said you had to play some hands oop with him, you decided on A4s, i dont think A4 is a nice hand as the 4 is pretty ****ing useless and you're not gonna hit flops much and even if you do you may struggle getting some good value or could get into trouble with your shit kicker, still i might be being nit picky but i'd rather play hands that can flop a bit better than A4s even if they're like TJo, ATo, i might be wrong but i just dont see A4s doing well oop againt maniac types.

Around 10 mins, i liked the flat with KK when the 2% guy 3bet you, i hardly ever have just flatted KK but there are times when i think i should, and yours sounded like a good example, 4betting might of narrowed his range to one which dominated you and flatting kept his range wider and as he's not a full stack its gonna be easy to get his money anyways. But make sure you note he had QQ in his 3bet range, helps match the 2% we see on the hud to his actually 3bet range.

One thing that jake touched upon which i seen a couple of times is when you do your 1 and done c-bet to just take the pot, i seen you c-bet 1.20 into 1.60. If they're not thinking players then you can literally use bet sizing according to your hand strength, similarly to how you bet almost pot when you have a hand against retard fish etc and caling stations, c-bet less against these guys when you miss the flop, .90 into 1.60 would probably do the same thing and save you money when it fails = winrate +++

Liked the video though mate, would also be lying if i said it didnt make me want to try 6max sometime But i dunno about that just yet!
See you at 50nl soon hopefully, keep crushing!

Agreed !

Totally agree. As soon as I talked myself into hitting call I regretted it!

Good point.

Yep, I've since been playing around with this and it's working out for me. Exploitable play FTW @ 25nl.


I wish! Keep grinding more like.

subscribed. Thanks for posting this.

GL