Video 4 tables 4nl by Tyler

so finally made a vid. should take about 10min to download so not too bad. thought there was some interesting spots in here (not at the beginning as i just rambled on lol) but later on. hopefully get some good feedback from u guys like the other vids. quality isnt that fantastic but it gets the job done. if i make another one then ill look into that post by iceman about compression and all that good stuff

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NCPBUGBH

Downloading. I'll try to watch it tomorrow night.

now im nervous

bump so my thread is shown first

will d/l tonight when I get back from my day out

Just woke up after letting my video compress all night, 1gig down to 110mb's will try and get it uploaded soon. Will d/l and watch yours

We need more videos. Anyone on this forum play PLO coz I wanna make a PLO video but don't know if anyone will watch it...
btw downloading now

ya people do. make it and peeps will watch. one of the main PLO players here took some time off but should be back soon i think

Thanks for watching my video Tyler, next one will have more situations in and thanks for giving some pointers! I'll write back to some of your questions in my video thread later! Had a really busy today and also had some weird food poisoning or something this morning :/ I did watch your video though and gonna watch it again in an hour or so when i finish this assignment and try to write some pointers for you even though your game was looking good, well done and cheers!

Right watched it again. Was struggling to find much to say looks like you played well with what you got, like me wasnt much going on at the start...

i noticed at 13 mins you talked about 3 betting light against that guy you thought would fold so basically you're wanting him to fold, and expecting him to as well. You 3bet his raise of 12c to 44c, i think if hes folding to 44c he's also folding to 36c, i know its being picky but all affects your win rate right? I dunno maybe you had a reason to but its just the way i see it.

15.50 is an interesting one, bottom right table you hold QQ out of position and the flop comes 9 4 K rainbow. This is where i would've played differently, but really im hoping someone better than me who watches this like WV, can either back me up, back you up, or tell us we're both wrong! ... Is this not kind of a WA/WB situation? to me i wouldnt be c-betting here, you have a good hand that's usually gonna be better than villains here but if you c bet what happens when he calls? You're almost forced to check and then fold when villain bets which is what he will often do when he thinks you were c betting with air. I like check calling here as when we check the turn again villain will really have to have some balls if he wants to fire another bet without the K in his hand. Quite often i find that i check call a bet here and get a cheap showdown where im often the best hand, i would fold to another bet mind if he fired again on the turn... just something to think about and like i say im just learning too so hopefully someone can tell us both what's good in this situation.

Maybe you should also consider taking player names off the hud as when you hover the cursor over the hud it tells you their name anyways. This would mean you could clear a full line of hud up, just something to think about if you're fussy and OCD around the poker table like i am, just optional.

Also can you tell me how to get my own hud stats up like you did at the end, i thought it was cool that you can see how many hands you've played at that stake etc ive never did that.

Well thats all i could really find to comment on, maybe some other people will find more, thanks for making the video and make more in the future your game looks good, most of it was played just like i would hence why i couldnt make more comments! GL

Thanks man

Ya that QQ hand was def my worst played and was reall hoping to get feedback on that. I like wat u said about c/c and also gives us the opportunity to use pot control as well which I never though about that. I'm in class rite now so I'll look at that hand a little more later

As for the HUD I have no idea lol it justcame up which was why I was surprised to it

Def gunna look into getting rid of names so thanks for that

I'll give a little more later on but thanks!!

I only watched 10 minutes so far but I'll get to the rest. Anyway:

1:26 - why are you cbetting JJ in position on a Q86r flop against an unknown who flatted from the blinds? I know he called 2 streets with 2nd pair but I think you'll get more value on average there by playing it as a WA/WB spot and checking the flop. Check there is generally the only way you're going to get value from his air.

7:35 - I don't like 3beting 55 from the BB against the SBs min raise. Call and use your position postflop.

thanks for the feedback!! hope your able to watch the rest and see if you see anything leaks

13:10 - Your 3bet sizing with JTs from the BB is on the large size. Personally not a big fan of 3betting JTs but if you do you'll do better to just make it pot sized.

15:37 - Don't fold to that silly ass turn min donk. You're getting 10:1 to there with 6 likely outs so you should at least call.

20:40 - Smaller 4bet sizing. It went .12 - .42 - 1.36 when $1 would be equally effective and might let him think he has some FE so he shoves lighter. Also don't like shoving the K22 flop. Check/calling is much better there since he'll likely bluff at least some of the time if checked to but he folds everything that we beat if we shove.

Ya, good vid man.

Acky/WVH have pretty much said it all already although at 15:37 with the KQo, I dont think it terrible to c bet that 72T flop vs that guy. I cant read all their stats but they seem very loose passive. Not that checking is terrible either though. It probs one of those very neutral EV spots.

thanks a lot for the feedback. really appreciate it

@Brank: thanks for watching the vid. Hope u start to play soon again

First thing I notice and don't like, way too many stats

I will hit you back later with rest my opinion.

wat?

wat wat?

too many numbers in there, on the hud, you know, the black box under each players name.

for 4nl something small and easy to understand gets the job done, something like vp/pfr/af and on the second line, fold to cb/ fold to pre 3bet/ cbet and preflop 3bet.

You 3bet 55 and JTs, which I think you shouldn't. When you 3bet you either do it for value or as a bluff, these hands are calling hands that you should see a flop with because I doubt you would call a 4bet all in so the are not 3bet for value, but they aren't bluffs either since both are decent hands, so stop doing it

KQ at about 16.50 villain bets 4c on turn and you fold. from my experience when they do this what they are saying is "pls don't bet", I would have not folded there, in fact I would have probably 3bet there. when he has a real hand he doesn't bet 4c, he bets big, cause he is a fish. but if you 3bet and he calls I guess we could fire again on the river, he probably has a draw or second maybe 3rd pair, anyways not much.

when you have QQ vs what seems to be a regular, you could try double barreling on the turn, depends tho on how often he floats on the flop. doesn't look like you have to many hands on the guy so your play was good I guess, but I don't think firing the turn is too bad there.

99 at 20.40, you squeeze from the BB, seems to me like you have a fetish for 3 betting from the BB, especially vs 2 guys you should call and try make a set and maybe you can stack someone for 1 buyin. if you 3bet what is going to happen is either someone will 4bet or they both fold, non of the cases favor you, because you can't call an all in with 99 vs any of the guys, and when they fold, well, you don't win that much. there also be times when you get called by one or both, a high card hits the board and once again you are faced with a tough decision like should you cbet, plus the pot is already big.

I don't understand why you get yourself in tough spots, when you could easily avoid some of them, keep it simple man.

64s I would play.

thats it.

appreciate the response. next time plz remove some of the sarcasm

I think in the long run you make more money by set mining with 99. as when you hit the set you will most often face a cbet and thats the minimum you get, when he actually hit something bigger you will of course make more money. I understand your thinking, I do 3bet myself from the blinds vs guys that steal a lot, however I call with pp and suited connectors as they will often make a big hand giving me the chance to take down a big pot. same goes for JTs.

"if he calls turn raise then he most likely isnt folding to a river bet. i dont think it will work often enough to get folds betting the river. i do agree that i at least should call turn"

they do give up a lot on the river, usually they make this 4c bets when they are on a draw, but they do give up on the river, when they miss. also in their range they have second and third pair and they give that one up aswell. hoever I am not saying I 3bet there a lot of the time, just sometimes, but the idea is that you should not fold to that small bet.

not trying to be sarcastic, sorry if it sounds like I am. best of luck.

FR or 6 dude?

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boo, I wont watch then!