| This is a discussion on Under The Gun within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; Hey Calvin, Here is a DANGEROUS MISTAKE that I'd say about 97% of people make when playing Texas Holdem: THEY DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT METHOD ... |
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| Under The Gun Hey Calvin, Here is a DANGEROUS MISTAKE that I'd say about 97% of people make when playing Texas Holdem: THEY DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT METHOD FOR PLAYING IN FIRST POSITION, BEFORE THE FLOP. This is the player immediately to the left of the big blind. It's the first person to act as soon as the cards are dealt. This position is nicknamed "under the gun". And with good reason, too. Because this is THE most DANGEROUS and COSTLY position at the table. Here's why: 1. When you're under the gun, you are FIRST to act BEFORE the flop... and one of the first to act AFTER the flop. This means you DON'T EVEN GET A CHANCE to get a read on the other players before you must make your decisions about betting... 2. The other players can check-raise you, trap you, and get a READ on YOU much more easily when you're in this position at the table... 3. You are more likely to get bluffed, pushed around, out drawn, and BEAT when you're in this position. Let's examine WHY this table position is so terrible... and what proven strategies you can use to play under the gun PROPERLY, so that you don't lose any more money because of it. Here's an example... Let's say you're under the gun at an 8-man table. You get your cards and look down at an A-10 off-suit. You decide to limp in, and you call the big blind (50). The action goes around the table to the other players. The man on the button (Don) decides to RAISE and make it 300 total to play. You're not sure if this is a position raise, or if he really does have a solid hand. With all the chips already in the pot... plus the 50 you already put in from your own stack, you decide to call with your A-10. There's one other caller, and both the big blind and small blind players fold. The flop comes out: A-3-6 All different suits. You've hit top pair. Congratulations. What sucks is that you're FIRST to act, and you know that Don is probably going to raise you no matter what you do... But you don't have a read on Don or the other player. If Don raises, you have to call, right? I mean, you hit top pair in a raised pot. So let's say you throw out a "feeler bet", just to see where you're at. Don calls, and the other guy folds. Hmmmm... so now you wonder if Don is SLOW-PLAYING a big hand or if he's just going to bluff at this. The turn comes. It's an 8. You check... and now Don bets 1000. What now? You're "pot committed" and you still have top-pair, so you decide to call. Now the river comes, you check again, and Don goes all-in for 3000 more. You've already got about 1500 in the pot. You're getting over 2:1 on your money, and you're really not sure if Don's bluffing or not. So you call... And sure enough, Don throws over his Big Slick (A-K), and rakes in the pot. Ouch. And the REASON you lost that big pot wasn't just the cards... it was your POSITIONING. If you're under the gun and you hit top pair on the flop, you're just ASKING for trouble... Because it's very difficult to get an accurate read on your opponents when you're first to act. I mean... let's just look at the many ways you can LOSE your money when playing under the gun: - If you call the blinds, but then the pot gets raised before the flop and you fold. (You've lost your blinds.) - If you call the blinds (and maybe a pre-flop raise) and the flop is no help to you. You check, and there's a big bet by another player and you are forced to fold. - If you bet after the flop but get raised and are forced to fold. - If you have a good hand but someone else has a MONSTER and slow-plays you. (It's much easier for someone to slow-play you when you're first to act.) - And more... Now multiply all of these LOSSES by the number of times you will be under the gun every single time you play cards. The result is a TON of lost chips... But I do have good news: IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY. You don't have to lose money every time you're first to act before the flop... You just have to know EXACTLY WHICH HANDS TO PLAY and HOW TO PLAY THEM. Let's take a look... In our example above, the biggest mistake made was playing A-10 in the first place. Since under the gun positioning is so dangerous, you shouldn't play anything except PREMIUM HANDS. The rule is this: TIGHTEN UP YOUR GAME. Only play these exact hands: A-K, A-Q, K-Q, and pairs. The only other hand you may want to play is suited connectors, but that just depends on your style... Personally, I don't like to play them here. OK, now let's look at HOW to play the starting hands. There are basically two groups: Group 1: A-A, K-K, Q-Q, and A-K. Group 2: A-Q, K-Q, and all other pairs. Got it? Now stick with me here, because this is VERY SIMPLE to understand and will save you a lot of money at the Holdem tables. When you're under the gun, you should always CALL THE BLINDS (LIMP-IN) when you get any hand in Group 2. That means if you get any pair between 2's and Jacks... or A-Q or K-Q... you should CALL. Period. The goal is to hit something good on the flop. If someone makes a reasonable raise before the flop, you can feel comfortable calling it with one of these hands. I love playing small pocket pairs, because if you spike your card on the flop (giving you a three of a kind or a "set"), your opponents will usually never see it coming. Now let's talk about Group 1 hands. The monsters: A-A, K-K, Q-Q, A-K The way you play these depends on whether the table you're at is LOOSE or TIGHT. Here's the rule: If you're at a LOOSE table (where a lot of pre-flop raises occur), you should LIMP-IN (call) with your monster. If you're at a TIGHT table (where not many pre-flop raises occur), you should RAISE the pot before the flop. Here's why... If the table is LOOSE, and you limp-in before the flop, the pot will most likely get RAISED and the action will come BACK to you. This is good. It means more money in the pot for your monster hand. But if you make a big bet, there's a good chance you will NOT get raised. Because you're first to act and everyone will know you probably have a good hand. If you limp-in and the pot gets raised, you should probably make a RE-RAISE. Always try to get as much money in the pot whenever possible with your monster hand... But you DON'T want more than 1-2 callers, because that would increase the odds of catching a bad beat. Now if the table is TIGHT, you want to make a RAISE before the flop. You don't want a bunch of players to all limp-in and see a cheap flop... Instead, you want to narrow down the field to 1-2 players and get some money in the middle before the flop. Period. Playing first position before the flop is just plain tricky... You're first to act pre-flop, in early position after the flop, you can't get as good of a read on your opponents, and you're at risk to getting slow-played. So just remember, the next time you're under the gun, follow these three simple rules: 1. Only play premium hands: pairs, AK, AQ, or KQ. 2. With AA, KK, QQ, and AK, you should RAISE at a tight table and LIMP-IN at a loose table. 3. With the other starting hands you should just LIMP-IN. Play by these easy rules and you'll stop losing money and start MAKING money from this very dangerous position. And you'll have a MAJOR ADVANTAGE over everyone else at the table who DOESN'T know this strategy. Which brings me to my next point... You should always try to have MORE POKER KNOWLEDGE than the other guys at the table... because if you do, you've literally "stacked the deck" in your favor. But if other guys you're up against know MORE about the game than YOU, you're going to be in DEEP TROUBLE... Because poker is a SKILL game... and it is very complex. If you want to learn how to play and WIN, you've got to know the strategies and techniques of the pros. I can show you everything you need to know... in an easy, step-by-step way that will INSTANTLY take your poker skills (and profits) to the next level. SHERMSTICK I'll write to you again soon. Your Friend, Roy Rounder |
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| I disagree with the advice to limp with KQ UTG at a full table. The majority of the time, someone will raise, and if you call this raise you're pretty much just asking to be dominated and out of position (vs. AK, AQ, AA, KK, and QQ). And those are just the hands that slaughter you... any A by itself or pair is ahead. I'm almost certain you will lose more money than you will win playing KQ UTG. |
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| I'd seldom limp with anything UTG that I wasn't also willing to raise with, and/or call a raise. That is, I might limp if it's AA/KK/QQ/etc (top hands), but hands that I'm only willing to limp in are auto-folds unless it's a special kind of passive table. However, myxiplx makes a good point that the occasional bluff from this position can win you some blinds, but unless it's a tourney where the blinds can rise and be worthwhile, I'm not sure if it's a risk worth taking -- and even then, it's a huge risk. Finally, I would say most people would agree that the BB is the costliest position in poker, not UTG. At least UTG, you can fold fold fold if you like. |
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| Heh, who said stealing blinds. I've taken down a couple of very nice pots on turn & river from UTG. Betting from this position commands a lot of respect from a player with a little knowledge of the game, but it's not something I'd advise unless you've got a strong image and an opponent who's prepared to call a raise from UTG yet fold on later streets. Gotta agree it's very dangerous, but fun to play if the opportunity arises. |
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| re: Under The Gun poker Aaah, the perfect combination... 84o UTG and a weak opponent ;-) ***** Hand History for Game 5492092646 ***** $100 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, December 09, 01:18:29 ET 2006 Table Jackpot #1308787 (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 6: barkchase ( $74.43 ) Seat 8: irishnuts57 ( $143.10 ) Seat 5: myxiplx ( $123.75 ) Seat 7: Jaipur1 ( $61.25 ) Seat 3: Chaquito ( $97.05 ) Seat 4: pokerfish88 ( $119.40 ) Seat 1: gates1981 ( $51.70 ) Seat 2: jfvrinrq ( $98 ) Seat 10: nige54 ( $35.20 ) Seat 9: Cougar1234 ( $112.15 ) Chaquito posts small blind [$0.50]. pokerfish88 posts big blind [$1]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to myxiplx [ 4s 8h ] myxiplx raises [$3] barkchase folds Jaipur1 folds irishnuts57 folds >You have options at Table 127204 Table!. Cougar1234 folds nige54 calls [$3] jfvrinrq folds Chaquito folds pokerfish88 folds ** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 9d, 6d ] myxiplx bets [$4] nige54 folds myxiplx does not show cards. The time at which hand endedec 09 2006 01:19 ET myxiplx wins $10.65 |
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