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  Poker - Two women together. Yummeh!!
 
  #1  
12-03-2008, 2:30 AM
NoWuckingFurries
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Two women together. Yummeh!!

How well does QQ do for you overall, is it one of your favourite hands, or does it lose you money Maybe you tend to overplay it

Do your pokertracker statistics actually agree with your gut feeling about how well this hand performs

After all, 98% of heterosexual men like the idea of two women together, but I tend not to make a great deal of money out of QQ overall.
 

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  #2  
12-03-2008, 2:43 AM
aliengenius
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QQ is #2 after AA in net $$ earned and bb/100. I'd say the ladies like me !!
  #3  
12-03-2008, 2:44 AM
NoWuckingFurries
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Ah yes, come to think of it I remember you mentioning that in a different thread about a week ago...

So two women together has been excellent for you!
  #4  
12-03-2008, 2:49 AM
Bentheman87
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The ladies have been very very bad to me lately. I definetly win more with JJ or 10 10. I went bust the last two times with QQ and lost most of my stack once with QQ lost twice to a lower pair flopping a set and once to AQ (pot was huge going to the flop he flopped an ace)
  #5  
12-03-2008, 9:30 PM
PokerVic
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After busting me out of numerous SNGs, I've developed an aversion to the ladies. In ring games, QQ is a distant third earner after KK and AA, mainly because I play them so snugly.
  #6  
12-03-2008, 9:38 PM
Mr McCluskey
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I really need poker tracker so I can answer these questions.

For some reason my brain screams danger on AA KK and JJ but on the ladies its play em now!!!!!!
  #7  
13-03-2008, 12:51 AM
Ldpokercj5
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I dont play online that much but the Ladies have saved me so many times in tournys online and live. I remember being down to about 3 BB and catching the ladies 3 times in about 5 hands to come back and make it ITM.
  #8  
15-03-2008, 11:42 PM
Raise-a-Thon
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i rarely lose w/ QQ.... KK and AA on the other hand... fuhgeddaboudit
  #9  
18-03-2008, 12:24 AM
AlexeiVronsky
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Hmm, list of hands that I win more money with than QQ

(BB/hand*): 98s, TT, 88, QTs, AQo, AKo, QJs, JJ, A6s, J9s, AQs, AA, KK

(Average/hand*): Q7o, 55, TT, 98s, KTo, AJo, T7o, QJs, T7s, 76s, KJs, A5s, 99, A3s, JJ, AA, T9s, AQo, KK, 77, KTs

Though it is in general a pretty profitable hand, it's not nearly as profitable as I think it should be.


*lowest profit to highest profit
  #10  
18-03-2008, 12:33 AM
NoWuckingFurries
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexeiVronsky
Hmm, list of hands that I win more money with than QQ

(BB/hand*): 98s, TT, 88, QTs, AQo, AKo, QJs, JJ, A6s, J9s, AQs, AA, KK

(Average/hand*): Q7o, 55, TT, 98s, KTo, AJo, T7o, QJs, T7s, 76s, KJs, A5s, 99, A3s, JJ, AA, T9s, AQo, KK, 77, KTs

Though it is in general a pretty profitable hand, it's not nearly as profitable as I think it should be.


*lowest profit to highest profit
Wow! I'm surprised that many hands would do better for you!
  #11  
18-03-2008, 1:15 AM
squarer
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I have folded many QQ after flop hits an A. I just don't like them if there is much of a bet after flop. That A always seems to hit.
  #12  
18-03-2008, 2:02 AM
royalburrito24
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An ace hits 100% of the time IMO. We should be folding KK-JJ pre-flop every single time just because there is always an ace.
  #13  
18-03-2008, 2:38 AM
tecnogoddess
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I'd say I do well with the ladies most of the time. But loose tables have players who will call significant raises with any ace trash in their hand. The minute I see an Ace or King on the flop, I slow down.
  #14  
18-03-2008, 3:01 AM
Tygran
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I'm with AG on this one..QQ is my second most profitable hand behind AA.

Ironically..my 3rd most profitable hand is *drumroll* 77. (won some *monster* pots with that one that are seriously skewing the data)

Don't even want to talk about KK right now. (they are still quite high on the profitable list..but they've dropped a few rungs in the last month)
  #15  
18-03-2008, 3:06 AM
Tygran
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Quote:
Originally Posted by royalburrito24
An ace hits 100% of the time IMO. We should be folding KK-JJ pre-flop every single time just because there is always a donkey calling with A-rag who is cashing in on the doomswitch setting and knows an ace will come on the river.

fixed it for you
/sarcasm off
  #16  
18-03-2008, 3:52 AM
SeanyJ
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Through about 13,000 hands QQ is my 5th most profitable hand.

TT, KK, JJ, and AKs are all ahead of it.
  #17  
18-03-2008, 6:57 AM
ross1shark
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2 Ladies is my cup'0'tea!

Not only do I love two women together, but the QQ has held up for me in live play WAY more than AA. In online play, it frequently does quite well for me, also. Of course you'll run into K's a lot, and the donk with A 2 os, but it's pretty common for QQ to hit trips (seemingly more than mathematically should be the case).
  #18  
19-03-2008, 3:48 PM
kadafi
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I love QQ because it has held up for me more than KK and about the same as AA.(i ahve no idea why, just the way it is)
  #19  
20-03-2008, 9:22 PM
AlexeiVronsky
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NoWuckingFurries
Wow! I'm surprised that many hands would do better for you!
Well, I play almost exclusively tournaments which definitely skews the average/hand as a few wins late in the tournament makes a big difference, for instance the reason 77 is so high is because I won a pot for 523k when blinds were at 8k/16k with 1600 antes.
As for the BB/hand some of those hands have just been in good situations for me and I get lucky, like a6s where I'll get it in late position or can get in cheap and flop big and get paid off.
There's also the possibility that I'm not playing QQ optimally as I'll usually fold it to any moderate-strong action when an ace or king comes off despite my opponent having a wide enough range that it may be good to keep playing it.
 

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