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  #1
4th September 2008, 12:29 AM
bulldog2782
 
Trying to play different

I currently have a very agressive style of play. i like to see the flop with most suited cards or a face card and another card above a 8 or so. i will only get in with those hands if i can get in with just callign the blind (this is all cash game). And if i am delt 2 face cards i will always raise or paired cards above 8 or so. This is not all set in stone but this is what i tend to do. I tend to bluff a decent amount when i sence weekness. But to what i am wondering is i have just had a huge hit to my stack because of bad beats that i do not think i made a bad choice just they seemed to have the only 2 cards that could have beat me. Is this just a bad string of luck or am i being to agressive witch is getting me in trouble? i usually do good with the style i play but latley it is just falling apart it seems to me.
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  #2
4th September 2008, 12:43 AM
dufferdevon
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: holdem
It sounds like you have the same problem I have in cash games and that is being too loose. Playing from any position with any top 80 hand.

Only play premium hands from EP - watch the bluffing, as much fun as it is, you need to know when to let the hand go.
  #3
4th September 2008, 12:49 AM
bulldog2782
 
Where can i find the premium hands from EP? and what are they? Also, my problem when i only play premium hands i always raise like 4-5x bb and then everyone usually folds to my bet. and even when they call those few times i still seem to hit nothing most of the time and so this ends up losing me a good deal of money (not that i play with a lot but for what i play with it is a good amount) and when i do hit and then i follow up on the bet they always fold unless they have like the nuts that always beat me
  #4
4th September 2008, 1:42 AM
philthy
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: .10 MTTs
Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldog2782
Where can i find the premium hands from EP? and what are they?
...Premium hands are the stronger hands that stand a better chance of winning if you get callers. Hands like AA-JJ, AK, maybe AQs. As a general rule, when in EP you want a stronger hand to raise with since you have so many other players to act behind you.

Also, my problem when i only play premium hands i always raise like 4-5x bb and then everyone usually folds to my bet.
...This sounds like you're basing your bets on the strength of your hand. Try not to do this because it'll be easy to catch on by decent players.

and even when they call those few times i still seem to hit nothing most of the time and so this ends up losing me a good deal of money (not that i play with a lot but for what i play with it is a good amount) and when i do hit and then i follow up on the bet they always fold unless they have like the nuts that always beat me
...I really cant answer this. Maybe you're betting too much or not enough. Can you post a hand history for better analysis?
Above. From your OP, it sounds like you might be limping into much and trying to see hands with suited cards. I don't get your strategy in limping in with a face/8+? What are you trying to do here by limping in with these hands? The problem with limping with suited cards, though it isn't wrong, is that you aren't going have the odds to flop a flush/flush draw that often to make this play profitable. Especially if you're constantly limping into a pot in EP. In late position, if there are many limpers, then limping in with suited cards might be ok..but then it would depend on your hand strength. You might be getting odds, but then limping in with something like 10/4 suited could get you into a lot of trouble.

So far, from what I've read, these are your problems:

-Hand range is way too wide for Early and Mid position. Tighten this up a bit. Its ok for LP since you should be playing position more than hand strength. However, if you're going to take the role of aggressive player, limping in isn't the way to do it with these hands...

-You're limping into often and possibly too often with very weak hands that get you into a lot of trouble.

-You might be overly aggressive and try to bluff a lot players. This is really easy to pick up on, so try varying your bluffs and don't do them as often. As soon as you think your opponents have picked up on your style, switch it up and start valuing betting your strong hands for example.
  #5
4th September 2008, 7:36 PM
Sk8surf
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
re: Trying to play different poker

yup been haven same problem im Agr. playr and i get called like mad players eem too think im bluffing cause i raise lots but fact is i normal only raie with AK or high Suited or pkts yet im getting rocked i tryed too mix my game up raising lw suited diff pos and so on but i think the key i play les hand even if you get that urg just to see flop i think what happen was i played 6 man tables and then i lost part of my 10 man switched back too 10 man and not a many prblems
  #6
4th September 2008, 10:47 PM
Paulozg
 
Online Poker at: Fulltilt, bw
Game: Holdem
I got the same problem man, i played very agressvly, took allot of small pots. When i really had a big hand, someone would not give me credit and try to semi bluff me with a flush draw, or something, i would call and eventually get hit. I lost about 80dollars one day always with the best hand, and it got me wondering if i should tight it up. But in the end, i really had the best hand, but i lost it after that, didn't have much left, so i'm still to retry with different strategies
 

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