Top pair vs possible flush draw: What do I do?

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  #1
11th February 2010, 7:53 PM
ben_rhyno
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Hold em
Top pair vs possible flush draw: What do I do?

PokerStars Game #39592395223: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2010/02/11 19:46:59 UTC [2010/02/11 14:46:59 ET]
Table 'Ganymede X' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ben-rhyno ($5.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Rowan1982 ($22.90 in chips)
Seat 3: ikbenlam ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 4: TYCOMOBUL ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 5: axlujo ($31.50 in chips)
Seat 6: gertpalle ($14.15 in chips)
TYCOMOBUL: posts small blind $0.10
axlujo: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ben-rhyno [Ks Ad]
gertpalle: folds
ben-rhyno: raises $1 to $1.25
Rowan1982: folds
ikbenlam: folds
TYCOMOBUL: calls $1.15
axlujo: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s Kh 3s]
TYCOMOBUL: checks
ben-rhyno: bets $1.25
TYCOMOBUL: raises $3.25 to $4.50
ben-rhyno: ?????
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  #2
12th February 2010, 12:25 AM
baudib1
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NLHE
1. Why are you playing with 25 BBs?
2. Do you have any reads, stats or history with villain? Why do you put him on a flush draw?
3. Do you really think you're doing anything other than shoving with TPTK with
13 BBs left and getting almost 3-1?
  #3
12th February 2010, 12:27 AM
slycbnew
 
Game: Yes
This should probably be in Hand Analysis...

Any reads on Villain? This is almost always a set, a combo draw, or a flush draw - against some Villains (aggressive ones), I'd re-raise or call, against others I'd fold (passive ones).

If Villain's a really huge fish, it might be Kx - he ought to be worried you have AK, but a superfish won't be thinking about your hand.
  #4
12th February 2010, 12:28 AM
slycbnew
 
Game: Yes
re: Top pair vs possible flush draw: What do I do? poker

Duh, broke one of my own rules and didn't look at stack sizes - insta shove as baudib says.
  #5
12th February 2010, 8:43 AM
ben_rhyno
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Hold em
Yeh I've caught him chasing a few times (flushes) at showdown and he seems to play any two suited cards. Maybe I should add that villain is aggressive.

I ended up shoving.
And he flipped As Js
  #6
12th February 2010, 8:51 AM
Grossberger
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
Did he catch or not?
You did the right thing by pushing especially because of your stack size your getting called 100% just have to hope its the flush draw and not a set or 2 pair.
  #7
12th February 2010, 9:15 AM
ImolAyrton
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: PLO
Many draws. I would not fold here. Odds are not bad
  #8
12th February 2010, 2:01 PM
ben_rhyno
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Hold em
re: Top pair vs possible flush draw: What do I do? poker

Yeh he rivered a spade unfortunately
  #9
12th February 2010, 8:36 PM
Ubercroz
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
Why are you playing ss at 25 nl?
It's best to keep yourself topped off at all times 100bb so you don't get in sticky situations- not that this is all that sticky but your options become much more limited when you play this shallow in chips.
  #10
12th February 2010, 9:16 PM
BenLZ
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Hold'em
Fold. He might be on a flush draw. It would be a great laydown...
  #11
13th February 2010, 4:46 AM
thepit89
 
Online Poker at: FTP
Game: holdem
I always hate your situations but usually odds can be on your side if you have good reads on the villain. You also got yourself in a mess with the low stack
  #12
13th February 2010, 6:58 AM
thepokerkid123
 
Game: NL Holdem
re: Top pair vs possible flush draw: What do I do? poker

The small stack doesn't complicate things, it simplifies them. That's why you don't want the short stack because it makes it easier for the other guy (who should be a worse player) to make fewer mistakes.

Simple situation here, you've got TPTK and are facing a less than pot sized all in shove. Insta-call, if the other guy turns over something better or outdraws you then it's a cooler but you'll lose a lot more money in the long term by folding here.
 



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