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  #1
25th July 2009, 5:29 PM
dresturn2
 
Plays at: fulltilt
Game: holdem
too good but not

has anyone ever felt like their reads were so good that they could win any hand......i have that problem and it has destroyed my patience and i am losing big when i run into one skilled player who confuses me.....what do i do...do i continue this style or do i go back
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  #2
25th July 2009, 5:56 PM
suit2please
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Hold 'Em
You need to do more than just read people, especially online since all you can read is betting patterns and hand ranges based on what you have seen. I don't know there are a lot of things to work on in online poker besides just reading the players. Not to discredit reading of players which is a very important skill to learn.
  #3
25th July 2009, 6:21 PM
dresturn2
 
Plays at: fulltilt
Game: holdem
I was speaking mostly about in live games......however if u could put me onto some books about human psychology that will help me with tells
  #4
27th July 2009, 11:04 PM
suit2please
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Hold 'Em
re: too good but not poker

I know there are some decent poker psychology books out there, but haven't read any. Im sure you can find a post on CC about poker books though.

Yes live being able to read players gives you a huge advantage.
  #5
28th July 2009, 1:45 AM
slycbnew
 
Plays at: PS/FT/Ultimatebet
Game: NLHE/Omaha
Google Mike Caro, or search him on Amazon/other bookstore site.
  #6
28th July 2009, 2:52 AM
jdeliverer
 
Plays at: FTP
Game: NLHE now
Quote:
Originally Posted by slycbnew
Google Mike Caro, or search him on Amazon/other bookstore site.
+1, I read his book on tells and it's still the most useful book for live play that I've read. It was the book that was most immediately applicable to actually playing (in my experience).

Even live though, working on your game has to come first. Soulreading is fun, but making sure the fundamentals of your play is solid is even more +EV
  #7
28th July 2009, 3:33 AM
slycbnew
 
Plays at: PS/FT/Ultimatebet
Game: NLHE/Omaha
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdeliverer
Even live though, working on your game has to come first. Soulreading is fun, but making sure the fundamentals of your play is solid is even more +EV
+1 on this - personally, I think soulreading based on tells is overrated (though absolutely useful), soulreading based on player betting patterns and hand reading is much more important.
  #8
28th July 2009, 7:23 AM
dcor
 
Plays at: stars
Game: holdem
re: too good but not poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by dresturn2
has anyone ever felt like their reads were so good that they could win any hand......i have that problem and it has destroyed my patience and i am losing big when i run into one skilled player who confuses me.....what do i do...do i continue this style or do i go back
I used to feel like that on ulimatebet and absolute when I called myself neo neo and potripper.......
  #9
28th July 2009, 7:33 AM
RA2000
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: holdem
Where do your reads work? At freerolls?
You can never be sure that a read it good.
Espacially at online poker....
 



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