| This is a discussion on A Tale of Two Pair within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; It was the best of hands, it turned into the worst of hands. On the button with 6s-7s, 3 limpers ahead of you, you figure ... |
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| A Tale of Two Pair It was the best of hands, it turned into the worst of hands. On the button with 6s-7s, 3 limpers ahead of you, you figure its a good idea to call and see what you can flop. Flop comes - 6h - 7d - Kc Nice flop, two pair, with one over card to get someone with a King to pay you off. UTG bets half pot, all fold to you, you just call to keep the fish around. Blinds fold. Turn is the 2s Villain checks. You bet, villain calls. River is 3d Villain leads out for half pot. Your sure you have the best hand and raise, villain shoves, you call and he flips over 4c-5h What happened ? How could the donk bet on the flop ? What alot of players forget when playing connected cards, is that when they hit, they also bring straight draws with them. The trick is to give you opponent the incorrect odds to chase his draw, but keep the pot small enough that you can get away from your hand if he appears to have hit. Using the above example with blinds of .10 / .25 - the pot starts with $1.50 (Assuming the SB completes and the BB checks) That means the bet of UTG is $.75, and one call the pot is now $2.25 when it gets to you. Now what should you do? Let's check the odds: For an open ended straight to hit by the river, villain has 8 outs or 32% chance to hit. We'll forget about implied odds for this discussion. In order for you to make villain make a mistake by calling, you need to raise it to $5.00, giving him about 2-1 odds but he has less than 3-1 to make his straight. Now the turn bricks and there is $7.75 in the pot. Villain has 8 outs, or a 17% chance of hitting so you have to give him worse odd to call. A bet of only $2.25 does that. Giving him 22.5% to call but only a 17% chance of hitting. The river was unfortunate, to say the least but why would this player, who has played pretty passive up to now, lead out ? Instead of raising here, just call the $6.50. Now you have given him the incorrect odds all the way along to chase his straight. And you only lost half your stack. Some may say, we should bet more to try and push villain off his hand. Why would we want to do that ? He only hits his hand less than 1 in 3 times, for the other 2/3 of the time, we want him to chase and pay us off, while still maintaining some pot control. So next time you flop two pair with your connectors, beware of the straight draws lurking. But make them pay to chase. |
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| math fail? Quote:
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- 18+%, if you ask poker stove, but that is just nitpicking river - if we have bet 3 on the turn, pot is 15.50, so another 7.75 to call means we lost... .25 + 4 + 3 + 7.75 = $15, or 60% of our stack. otherwise, nice article |
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