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  #1  
15-03-2008, 3:03 AM
1nickthegreek
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Suited connectors?

When you play suited connectors, is there an established lower end and higher end? I don't normally play anything lower than 6-7.
 

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15-03-2008, 3:07 AM
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I am not a pro by any means but to me you have to put a few things into perspective first. Where are position you are in the tourney, position, is it an unraised pot, if not what is the size of the raise and who is is raising and who else is in the pot. Hope that makes sense.

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15-03-2008, 3:22 AM
1nickthegreek
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I am not too sharp with the position stuff, and only play online. But thanks for your response, I appreciate it.
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15-03-2008, 4:44 AM
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Quote:
When you play suited connectors, is there an established lower end and higher end? I don't normally play anything lower than 6-7.
Dont now if there any established lower-higher limit but i usaly dont play any suited conectors lower then 54.
Also i usaly only play them middle-late postions with an non raised pot or min raised and allmost never against an TAG player.

But it all depends on the exact situation
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15-03-2008, 4:48 AM
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When I play ring, I will play all the way down to 43s. I don't know why, but 32s just doesn't do it for me imo.
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15-03-2008, 5:26 AM
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Play em all if the price is rite. You never know what's comin outa there!
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15-03-2008, 2:27 PM
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Playing anything less than 4/5s isn't a good move, as it limits your draws.
That is, with 4/5 you can catch three connectors on either endto make the straight. With 3/4 you can only catch two connectors on the low end and *need* a 5 for the straight.

Personally, 6/7s is the lowest I'll limp in with. It reduces my chances of having the ignorant end of the straight. It's also great to have against someone who's A/x gives him a steel wheel.
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15-03-2008, 11:36 PM
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im not really a big fan of suited connectors, but i'll play anything higher than 6 7 suited if its cheap and in late position. usually i'll limp w/ 8 9 or higher, regardless of where i am.
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16-03-2008, 12:36 PM
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I don't particularly like suited connectors, I've been known to fold 9sTs in the small blind with no raise or calls. They get you into to much trouble IMO. But when i do play them I usually stick to 7-8 and above and I almost never play clubs, I don't know it's just my thing.
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16-03-2008, 2:02 PM
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Folded to you in the cutoff or button, 78s+ is good for a raise. Most of the time I like to be raising when I come into the pot. Of course I will ocassionaly limp if I don't have position or just complete SB if I am getting a good price.
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16-03-2008, 8:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SavagePenguin
Personally, 6/7s is the lowest I'll limp in with. It reduces my chances of having the ignorant end of the straight. It's also great to have against someone who's A/x gives him a steel wheel.
That is exactly where I was headed with this question in my OP was wheel draws, thanks for the clarification.
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21-03-2008, 12:41 AM
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Suited connectors scare me! At the high end (89, 9T) if you hit the straight, there is the possibility that someone else has a higher straight. And at the lower end (34, 45) when you hit your flush, you don't know if someone else has a higher flush.

That's why I think position has such a big influence on being able to play suited connectors well.
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21-03-2008, 1:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roland cote
Play em all if the price is rite. You never know what's comin outa there!

I agree with this 100%.

Still, the risks of playing low suited connecters:

A pair on the flop will usually be no good.

2pair on the flop is usually good. However, top pair has a great draw against it.

A straight is more likely to be the low end. When it is the high end other players will nearly always have a draw to a better one.

A flush will be too low to know is best. When it is best other players will have a draw to a better one.
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21-03-2008, 3:11 AM
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Last cuple of replys was sorta like how to play pocket Jacks..there's only three and there all wrong...In this case I think position is evdrything!
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22-03-2008, 5:55 PM
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I don't like playing suited connectors, but that seems to be a growing trend. I am seeing more and more hands being won by people playing those connectors, whether they be suited or not. I am going to have to adapt to this style of play, even though they will lose more often than not. The key I believe is not to be married to them and just limp in with them and be willing to fold on the flop rather than chase them like so many seem to be doing.
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22-03-2008, 6:06 PM
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Here is some advice from LearnTexasHoldem

"When you play 54s or 76s or 98s, you are looking for a big flop. A big flop would be a flop in which you caught a flush draw or a straight draw. You could catch two pair or trips, but that isn't likely enough to make calling worthwhile; in that sense, any two cards would work. Top pair or middle pair sometimes will win, but most of the time these hands won't be strong enough to stay ahead against the competition. Since the hands do best when we have ample odds in our favor, we need to play them in spots where we are sure we will get that cushion to try and hit a flop. Late position is obviously better than early position when we are trying to see what other people are doing before we make our move. Limit holdem offers people a greater chance to play suited connectors than no limit does. Often times the raise preflop will too large in no limit to give the suited connector a look at the flop. Also, most of the time if there is a raise preflop in no limit, the amount of people in the hand will only be 2 or 3. That situation is not ideal for a little hand like 8s7s.

Now for some exceptions. Suited connectors are nice hands to play out of the blinds with, if the price is right. Suited connectors are also playable in late stages of tournaments when the blinds are increasing and your chances for a high strength hand are waning. Make no mistake though, 5s4s does not play well heads up.

Let me finish but by saying that -- in no limit holdem cash games only -- I like getting in with little hands like 35s or 46s, etc. I won't pay much to see the flop, but if I can limp in or pay just a small amount, then I can occasionally break someone"
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23-03-2008, 2:43 AM
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If I'm at a table with a lot of limpers I will play any suited connectors because when I hit I have a better chance of getting paid. I like suited connectors better than small pairs, you have more ways to hit a flop.
Also I like 5-6 suited against a rock. I will call a 3x raise to see a flop once in a while because he probably has a big pair and rags will be no good to him. If I don't bust him I might put him on tilt when I hit two pair.
 


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