stacking off in cash games..

yeah, just wondering about what peoples stacking off ranges are? I 3-bet fairly liberally in position AJs/KQs+ 99+ (well I think its liberally, maybe I've been playing with too many nits this month)

but say for example you/I 3 bet AQo (100bbs deep) from the button and are 4 bet by what we see as a thinking/knowledgeable player, do we ever fold here or are we forced to get the money in? are we doing this for value because our hand is too strong to fold at 6 max or do we let this go because we could be dominated/crushed/flipping a fair amount of the time?

I know its different for FR and 6 max but if you could post for both it'd be helpful

just a question that's been bugging me for the last 2 weeks.. applies appreciated!

You're 3betting hands you should be flatting with. AQ plays wonderfully in a single raised pot but horribly if 3bet/4bet. Basically you're bluffing with hands like 99-JJ,KQ/AJ/AQ when you 3bet them. If you want to 3bet a lot it's better to add hands like A2-A5 (preferably suited) and maybe a hand like 98o to your value 3bet range (QQ+/AK). That would put your 3betting ~5% with just over half of your range being value hands.

I guess, maybe I need to improve my postflop play.. I hate not having the lead, and bricking the flop or seeing an over with 99-JJ and not having a clue where I am in the hand.. are you not 3 betting these hands ever? or is it situation/player dependant.

Very rarely. Only against the most maniac players can you 3bet those hands for value. For example if you 3bet AQs you need your opponent to call with a range of 99+/AT+ just to be even money equity wise.

Don't necessarily 3bet AQ vs a "thinking/knowledgeable player", but if you know villain is calling your 3bets with 87s and 33, then you can widen your 3betting range for value. I got this idea from Andrew Seidman's Coaching Kristy videos. AQ plays very well vs 87s, and so does 99 for that matter! First you've got to know what your villain is doing. What's his opening range like, what's his fold to 3bet, what does he call with? Does he 4bet or fold? You can't simply say, I has AQ I 3bet.

In games I play I 3-bet JJ close to 100%, TT/AQ probably 50%. But I am getting called by a lot worse hands quite often.

Live poker lol.

Yeah I would never think like that haha, just wondering whether its worth 3 betting for value in position..

does this change when we're in the blinds?

As others said AQ is not a good hand to 3bet with. The 3bet range I am trying out atm is JJ+ and AK (for value) and A2s-A5s and some KXs hands (as a bluff).

I think this turned from a stacking off range to a 3bet range discussion though, so to go back to the original Q...my stacking off range varies between player types and stack sizes but in general against a solid, tightish player and 100BB stacks I will only stack off preflop with QQ+ and AKs. Against nits I would prob only stack-off pre with AA and KK

AQ 3-bets for value just fine.

You show a profit getting AQ in 100bb deep?

maybe at higher stakes, with more 3betting and 4bet bluffs? Can't see that working in the micros

Who said anything about stacking off?

OP.

^^^ not OP