Some examples of hands, what would you do?

I have a tricky time with A,K/A,Q/A,J/A,10 and this is for 6 max.

Obviously you're raising in any position with A through to Js and a raise in late position with A,10s if there's no action. The questions I have are these.

Say for example I raise with A,Q and I am re-raised you then flat call. First of, is that the correct move?
Now post flop an Ace lands, you bet and are re-raised, do you call? The reason I ask is because you was re-raised do you automatically put him on A,K?

All-in post flop is common if both hit the ace and I will call most times with A,K or Queen.

Now the same applies to A,J,10....are you folding if you're re-raised and possibly put all in? You can only put them on either A higher kicker or they hit a set which is unavoidable and you're probably going broke.

Also if you have A,K and raise and someone calls, are you always calling all-ins with them if you hit the ace?

EDIT: Basically are one pair good enough (if top pair post flop) with a highish kicker good enough to call an all-in move in micros? I've called them before a few times and in most cases to find I'm up against a low A and thankfully I think most times my kicker has held out..or few rare times I'm up against a set. Is it a profitable move to call them long term at the micros?

The other night was a perfect example, I raised with A,K and someone called. Cut a long story short after an ace landed and few raises post flop he pushed and I called for him to show over K,10. My Ace,King held up and I thought wtf was he doing? Do these people just see a top pair and don't know anything about kicker so think their hand is best even though they was RAISED preflop?

How often do people 3bet at your stakes?

The regulars will 3bet who sit there grinding all day.

So what's your opinion Billy please? Give me one of your in-dept examples, usually helps me!

What I'm trying to get to is that it depends on how often they're 3betting.

It's VERY VERY LIKELY that they're not 3betting enough to make calling with AT-AQ anywhere near profitable.

Well by 3bet, do you mean pre flop or post flop? Isn't a 3 bet just a standard raise anyway?

I don't actually understand what you're saying to me... You saying that I should fold If I'm 3bet and I'm holding A,Q/A,J?

I always thought that you should raise PF with A,Q/A,J and if re-raised just flat calling it?

ps: How can A,J/A,Q not be profitable if 80% of the pots are raised preflop in 6max (from my experience) with worse hands than A,Q/A,J. This is micros btw billy if that helps.

3bet pre:

Blinds -> Raise -> reraise

3bet post:

Bet -> raise -> reraise

Please back up your claim that "80% of the pots are raised preflop with worse hands than A,Q/A,J". Oh and regardless of this claim just because someone is raising with something worse doesn't mean they are 3betting/calling a 3bet with worse.

Well ok I can't actually backup that they are worse hands I'm just quite sure of it but over all the hands I've played at 6max a high majority and probably is close to 80% of them are raised PF (a lot of the time for the steal) A lot of the time it's the regs who are raising trying to push out everyone, that's why I will re-raise them with even a marginal hand and a lot of the time they will fold which led me to the conclusion that majority of hands will be worse than A,Q,A,J.

I'm clearly missing something here with what 3 bet actually means. Can you give an in-dept explanation please? Your last sentence doesn't make any sense to me.

thanks for the reply..

Preflop.

This is what I mean:
Full Tilt - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $98.50
SB: $115.95
BB: $170.10
UTG: $100.00
UTG+1: $100.00
Hero (MP): $100.50
MP+1: $41.75
LP: $35.00
CO: $39.50

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has A♠ Q♥

fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.50, MP+1 raises to $11.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

MP+1 wins $8.50


I folded to the 3bet.

Open PokerStove and see how these hands fair against different 3bet ranges.

For example against a 5% 3bet range:
AQ - 38.5% equity
AJ - 34%
AT - 31%

AK on the other hand has 47%.

Also when you do flop an Ace with AT-AQ in a 3bet pot if you do end up getting stacks in (easy to do with a preflop 3bet) you're VERY rarely getting it in with the best hand.

Thanks for the reply Billy. I kind of understand, I guess this is why I'm at micros though as I really need to study the equity part quite a bit more....All seems very complicated though lol. Thanks again,

I think you'll find that against regular players at micro stakes they 3bet too little, not too much so calling 3bets as a rule is never going to be profitable and you're likely best to adopt a 4bet (with your strong hands QQ+/AK) or fold (everything else) approach. You can begin to think about flatting 3bets with things like pp when stacks are deep (say 150bb+ effective) or your opponent does something stupid like min 3betting a strong range.

I play FR though so it's possible my ranges are WAY off and you should be 4betting JJ/AQ but I honestly doubt it.

are you talking about regs or fish? i think you are right im just curious.

Depends on the reg or the fish.

If they 3bet too much we add to our stacking range. If they 3bet too little we tighten up. So a ultra-passive fish 3betting means we can fold JJ pretty easily but a maniac 3betting means we can stack AJ.

Ahhh thats far easier to understand the logic in that last comment Billy. I understand what you're saying now! Cheers.

Now this concept is easy to do and put into action if you have full watch on your table(s) but say you're multi-tabling and it's hard to actually keep track of tight/loose players, what do you do then? Play even tighter?

Use a HUD or play fewer tables.

The micro regs for 6max 3bets on AVERAGE from what info i have~5-7% from the blinds vs late postion steals.So i will 4bet complete air some very little though,AJs-AK\10 10-AA for vaule.If i get shoved on obv i'm only calling AK\QQ-AA.If they flat call the 4bet it gets very very tricky,ummmm maybe i souldn't be 4 betting AQs but it's hard when regs or likely restealing.

Edit: the 5-7% 3bet is over all the 3bet from the blinds vs late postion steal is higher 9-15% depending.

5-7% is "likely restealing"? what?