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  #1
3rd November 2008, 11:33 AM
tlourdeau
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: NLHE
SNG Question.

I just finished a single table $6+.060 turbo in which I cracked the money, but I could easily have gone out early in the tourney, which brings me to my question.

Just how valuable are hands like AJ suited in front of a big raise? That's exactly what I had in one of the key hands, and I could easily have called for half my stack (the raiser was all-in preflop), but I didn't. The guy ahead of me snap-called, and the raiser flopped a set. With the variance in SNG, is this the kind of move I should be making often?
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  #2
3rd November 2008, 11:47 AM
Dorkus Malorkus
 
Plays at: Stars
Game: yes
probably best to post the hand history as without any more details it's hard to comment on the hand you're talking about.

generally speaking, AJ is pretty standard fold-fodder in the early stages of SNGs unless it's folded to you in late position. you certainly shouldn't be calling raises with it.

a general rule for late-stage SNG play for newer players is if you think you have a close decision between calling a shove and folding, you should invariably be folding.
  #3
3rd November 2008, 1:35 PM
BelgoSuisse
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus
a general rule for late-stage SNG play for newer players is if you think you have a close decision between calling a shove and folding, you should invariably be folding.
And as a corollary to this: if you have a close decision between shoving and folding, you should invariably be shoving.
  #4
3rd November 2008, 2:00 PM
josh_dei8
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: holdem
Your goal in the sng is to hit the money. I am not going to put a huge portion of my chips in preflop, where I can get destroyed with the nest 5 cards. I want to be the agressor in an early stage. Make the others think if they want to risk their chips. I would rather bet them than call them off
  #5
3rd November 2008, 2:56 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
 
Plays at: Stars
Game: yes
re: SNG Question. poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by BelgoSuisse
And as a corollary to this: if you have a close decision between shoving and folding, you should invariably be shoving.
v true also.
  #6
3rd November 2008, 4:52 PM
Ranger390
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: holdem
AJ suited...nope, it's a fold. The minimum for cold calling a pre-flop raise is A Q, preferably suited. Even then, you could be dominated and in deep trouble.
  #7
4th November 2008, 1:15 AM
Exit141RTe1
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
It is a fold here too. Although it appear you have a decent hand, it is a marginal hand for much of your chips. Nothing wrong with letting the knobs weed themselves out while playing a higher probable hand for success.

Why risk it early. Stay patient and win.
  #8
4th November 2008, 5:59 AM
the_urge27
 
Plays at: ftp
AJ is garbage early in a sit n go-feel free to either limp or open raise but immediatly fold to a reraise or shove-no use calling off your stack againts hands like AK AQ-its better to let this one go and wait for a better spot-however on the bubble this hand is a monster-the_urge27
  #9
4th November 2008, 2:28 PM
KDS63
 
Plays at: fulltilt
Game: HORSE
In situations like this (as always, depending on what the play and players have been like to that point), I like to remember Steve Dannenmann's quote during the final table vs. Joe Hachem at the final table: "A bad fold is only a small mistake"... the flip side being that a bad call/raise might be a HUGE mistake.
  #10
4th November 2008, 11:36 PM
cpb4
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: holdem
re: SNG Question. poker

I personally feel you should never call with AJ suited. You should at least have AQ suited, but when it is for half your stack and you have not yet commited a large amount of chips you should definetly fold.
  #11
4th November 2008, 11:42 PM
OneEyeLefty
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: NLHE
Early stage of any tournament play. AJ is an easy fold. If you call any raise with AJ pre-flop your in serious trouble. The early stages of a SNG should be used to gain info on opponents and their play. You should only be playing MONSTERS and position.

Lefty
  #12
5th November 2008, 12:02 AM
verydark
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: stud hi lo
aj suited is a fold-if-re-raised hand
  #13
5th November 2008, 2:32 AM
lfd tricky
 
Plays at: fulltilt
Game: hold em
Ace Jack suited would prolly be good with the guy that went all in with the low stack, but since a guy after him insta called your ace jack was prolly not good. Good lay down.
  #14
5th November 2008, 2:38 AM
pokerking123
 
Plays at: Ultimatebet
Game: NL holdem
AJ is a fold but it sometimes depends on the number of players in the tourney and on the table
 



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