Poker Forum - Register
For the biggest and best online poker promotions use a pokerstars marketing code which earns you bonus money as does a full tilt poker referral code which is applicable for poker games & strategies online to play online poker at Us poker sites for winning lots of money.
Titan Poker Party Poker Bodog Pacific Poker
Go Back   Poker Forum > Poker Message Boards > Strategy Forum
Search
SEARCH THE ONLINE POKER FORUMS  

Online Poker Forum
Reply
  Poker - show or no
 
  #1  
24-04-2007, 7:49 AM
shinedown.45
The Felt Reaper
 
Location: Winnipeg
Plays at: pokerstars
Likes: hold-em
Posts: 3,217
show or no

My table image is tight IMO and was wondering if I should show a bluff to loosen up the rest of the table?
The following are my session stats for the table in Question:

During current Hold'em session you were dealt 136 hands and saw flop:
- 8 out of 17 times while in big blind (47%)
- 7 out of 16 times while in small blind (43%)
- 17 out of 103 times in other positions (16%)
- a total of 32 out of 136 (23%)
Pots won at showdown - 6 of 7 (85%)
Pots won without showdown - 9

or should I just leave?, I have doubled my buy-in of $15
 

PokerStarsPokerStars is one of the best sites to play online poker. They accept US players & using PokerStars marketing code CARDSCHAT you get a $75 bonus.

Full Tilt PokerFull Tilt Poker is the poker site the pro's play at. US players are welcome - use Full Tilt Poker referral code CARDSCHAT for a $600 bonus.

  #2  
24-04-2007, 8:17 AM
MrDaMan
CardsChat Regular
 
Location: Sandy Eggo
Plays at: Poker Stars
Likes: holdem
Posts: 502
What limit's are you playing? I assume they're pretty low. IMHO your stats of 6 of 7 won at showdown is too close to the 9 won without showdown. If your stats of pots won without showdown are 2 to 3 times higher than those won at showdown THEN they are truely scared of your play and it may be time to loosen up.

Also what's the max buy-in? What's the tallest stack in comparison to yours? If your way ahead and getting to much respect THEN it's time to mix it up and lose a few, donk a few hands and tighten back up.

I don't like showing and only show once in a while which is rare to friends or opponents who I have respect for and from who I know I have respect.

To spur my opponents I'd rather get caught bluffing or making a donk play chasing an inside straight or backdoor flush.
  #3  
24-04-2007, 8:46 AM
shinedown.45
The Felt Reaper
 
Location: Winnipeg
Plays at: pokerstars
Likes: hold-em
Posts: 3,217
During current Hold'em session you were dealt 222 hands and saw flop:
- 12 out of 26 times while in big blind (46%)
- 9 out of 26 times while in small blind (34%)
- 25 out of 170 times in other positions (14%)
- a total of 46 out of 222 (20%)
Pots won at showdown - 7 of 8 (87%)
Pots won without showdown - 22

What about now?....3x
  #4  
24-04-2007, 10:03 AM
joosebuck
Friendly NeighborhoodTRex
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Plays at: 911POKER.COM
Likes: strip poker
Posts: 3,918
show a bluff then, or raise more hands. when your showdown vs. no showdown are that close then you dont havem uch respect. or they suck
  #5  
24-04-2007, 1:59 PM
buckster436
Young vs. Old,>> Winner
 
Location: Fall River,Ma.
Plays at: full tilt
Likes: NL Holdem
Posts: 9,240
you doubled your buyin so do whats best for you, personally i never show my cards,>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. buck
  #6  
24-04-2007, 3:07 PM
lilybo
CardsChat Regular
 
Location: michigan
Plays at: was doyles
Likes: everything
Posts: 631
how would showing your bluff loosen up the table? seems like it would just piss people off
  #7  
24-04-2007, 3:39 PM
jeffred1111
CardsChat Elite
 
Location: Valuetown
Plays at: PokerStars
Likes: Your sister
Posts: 791
And we want to "piss them off" because someone is bound to approach tilt and then we get some action when we hit a huge hand. I personally like to show some bluffs or show that I will raise with almost any hand on the button if I feel that:
a) I can outplay my opponent
b) I get a bigger advantage from doing so then mucking my cards once the pot is won

It's important to tighten up and only play premium hands out of position and decent holdings for a few orbits after that because you probably won't be able to buy the pot anymore.
  #8  
24-04-2007, 3:49 PM
beardyian
Ricky 'The Hitman' Hatton
 
Location: In my little world
Plays at: Sanity
Likes: Justine Joli
Posts: 6,578
Personally im of the no-show school

Showing of even just one hand is information that your opponents didnt have before you gave them.

If your not getting any callers when you are raising, thats the time to 'maybe' raise the odd rag hand and take the opportunity of stealing some blinds.

But not too often or suspicions will be aroused
  #9  
24-04-2007, 4:20 PM
dj11
Flopologist
 
Location: West of you.
Plays at: PSFTUBPOSB&O
Likes: Horse.
Posts: 8,069
I never show, but do allow my bluff cards to be bought. Slight difference.

In a min betdown, I will will do it occasionally, partly knowing I will be showing garbage, giving the impression I will play anything, which, I pretty much do these days. But in big pots, I really don't want them knowing I beat them with AA or 92o unless they are willing to pay.
  #10  
25-04-2007, 4:30 AM
jeffred1111
CardsChat Elite
 
Location: Valuetown
Plays at: PokerStars
Likes: Your sister
Posts: 791
Quote:
Personally im of the no-show school

Showing of even just one hand is information that your opponents didnt have before you gave them.

If your not getting any callers when you are raising, thats the time to 'maybe' raise the odd rag hand and take the opportunity of stealing some blinds.

But not too often or suspicions will be aroused
Good post and I tend to never show my hands to decent players because giving them information for free is not something I want (since maybe THEY will start reraising with anything and then my edge is lost). But when facing players who are passive, very, very tight or very, very afraid of comitting anything to the pot, showing will be better in the long run because the size of the pots will get larger and they'll be tempting to play marginal hands while I'll tighten way up.
  #11  
25-04-2007, 5:11 AM
shinedown.45
The Felt Reaper
 
Location: Winnipeg
Plays at: pokerstars
Likes: hold-em
Posts: 3,217
I know that its not really a good idea to show, but if your not receiving action on a table(cash only) I think your only two options are:
1-show down 1 or 2 bluffs
2-leave the table and go to another cash table.
As I'm typing this I think the latter is the best choice.

I would like to add that I never ever show my hand at any given time during a tourney.
  #12  
25-04-2007, 5:21 AM
Suited Frenzy
Expert Member
 
Location: United States
Plays at: Full Tilt
Likes: All Games
Posts: 270
I would show some bluffs for the simple fact that your tbl image is coming across as tight & if you show a bluff here or there, youll get more callers when you do play a good hand & have something big. Having them know that your image is tight most of them dont get into pots w/ you unless they have something big so i would show a few bluffs & get them to call you when you have the nutz.
  #13  
25-04-2007, 5:31 AM
shinedown.45
The Felt Reaper
 
Location: Winnipeg
Plays at: pokerstars
Likes: hold-em
Posts: 3,217
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suited Frenzy
I would show some bluffs for the simple fact that your tbl image is coming across as tight & if you show a bluff here or there, youll get more callers when you do play a good hand & have something big. Having them know that your image is tight most of them dont get into pots w/ you unless they have something big so i would show a few bluffs & get them to call you when you have the nutz.
Is this something that you need to know? I would say yes, after much thought, showing is the wrong way to go, A tight table image may give you less action but it narrow the range that you put others on when someone enters a hand with you, so a tight Image does have a significant advantage.
IMO
  #14  
25-04-2007, 9:04 PM
Vhyre
Aspiring Member
 
Plays at: Dream Poker
Likes: holdem
Posts: 92
Give them nothing
  #15  
27-04-2007, 6:12 PM
reglardave
CardsChat Elite
 
Location: Illinois
Plays at: pokerstars
Likes: Horse
Posts: 2,278
Never show keep 'em all guessing. The ONLY hand I ever show is I hit a royyal, and don't get to play it out.
  #16  
27-04-2007, 8:03 PM
vanquish
When it rains, it pours.
 
Posts: 5,390
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vhyre
Give them nothing

But take from them everything.
  #17  
27-04-2007, 8:07 PM
skoldpadda
Caveman Eye Surgeon
 
Location: Cyberspace
Plays at: PS, Tilt
Likes: CC Razz Guru
Posts: 2,804
If you're not bluffing much and you do take down a big pot with 2 napkins, then I'd show the bluff. Definitely will get more action afterwards and you can continue with your same TAG play but get paid more.
  #18  
28-04-2007, 10:34 PM
alexanderwoo1
Expert Member
 
Location: Rochester
Plays at: pokerstars
Likes: holdem
Posts: 288
I wouldn't show because make them call it to found out if you have a hand or not.
 



Similar Threads for: Poker > show or no
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Live play-- show one, show both?? drtofu66 Poker Rooms 1 06-03-2007 2:51 AM
holdem stragedy show or no show soleseeker Strategy Forum 18 20-02-2007 8:21 PM
To Muck or Not to Muck dimon Strategy Forum 15 24-08-2006 11:45 PM
When to show your hand t1riel Strategy Forum 3 03-03-2006 7:49 PM
to show or not to show? 3vi General Poker 14 20-02-2006 3:37 AM


Sportsbook Poker
ACCEPTS US PLAYERS - CREDIT CARD DEPOSITS - $1000 BONUS

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 3:23 PM.


Sitemap: General

Copyscape   Poker En Ligne Online Poker Poker Online
Carbon Poker Coupon Code - All original site contents ©Cardschat.com 2004-2008. Reproduction is prohibited.