Serious Question

#1 22nd October 2009, 12:20 AM

If I wanted to devote more of my time to to poker, in an attempt to get serious about moving up in levels, what books would you suggest I read??

Ive already read super system 1-2, couple of sklanskys works, harrington vol 1 and workbook and ace on the river.

What books are the best for an intermediate player looking to go to the next level???

#2 22nd October 2009, 12:26 AM

Books address general leaks & plays. Once you've reached an intermediate level, you should have an idea of your own specific leaks & tendencies. Read strategy articles here, on 2+2, in the required reading thread, ect. that address the issues you're having.

#3 22nd October 2009, 3:11 AM

I'd suggest The Poker Mindset by Ian Taylor and Matt Hilger. It doesn't tell you how to play hands; it tells you what you can work on on yourself.

#4 22nd October 2009, 4:24 AM

Did you read Harrington on Hold'em Volume II? Because that was a lot more beneficial to my ROI that Volume I.

#5 22nd October 2009, 4:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SavagePenguin

Did you read Harrington on Hold'em Volume II? Because that was a lot more beneficial to my ROI that Volume I.

This. Volume II was the most helpful IMHO. Definitely read that and it will help a lot.

#6 22nd October 2009, 4:48 AM

Gus Hansen's "Every Hand Revealed" is very unique and different than other books in that he gives you his thoughts/comments on every hand he played while winning the Aussie Millions tournament. (he recorded/took notes while he played). Gives you good insight into the thinking of a professional poker player. It may help you out. I tried playing like Gus and lost my whole bankroll! Then again, I probably just thought I was playing like him, while actually playing like a donk! Anyway, it may give you a new, fresh perspective.

#7 23rd October 2009, 11:56 PM

As you have already read Harrington, i would like you to go through 2 more of my favourite books...
"Telling lies and getting paid" by Micheal Konik and
"Big deal" by Anthony Holden...

Well if u want, u can have a look on these two books as well...
"Ace on the river" by Barry.
"One of a kind" by Nolan and Peter.

#8 24th October 2009, 12:31 AM

Read Vol.2
I'm surprised to hear that you've read Vol.1,.... which chapter was HighBlindLimping advoctated in? (joking).

#9 24th October 2009, 1:41 AM

if your serious about learning poker. get a coach. join a training site. and read whatever books your coach recommends to you.

#10 24th October 2009, 5:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cardplayer52

if your serious about learning poker. get a coach. join a training site. and read whatever books your coach recommends to you.

I would be willing to do that but to me it always seemed like coaching sites were money making schemes that didn't teach anyone anything they couldnt learn by themselves, but im probably wrong.

do you know anyone who used one of them??

#11 24th October 2009, 6:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kadafi

I would be willing to do that but to me it always seemed like coaching sites were money making schemes that didn't teach anyone anything they couldnt learn by themselves, but im probably wrong.

do you know anyone who used one of them??

I know of a couple that are pretty bad, but the big name ones are pretty decent as far as I know. I was on DC for a while, and I know FP, Chuck, WV, Dakota, and a lot of others have used either DC or Stox.

Books are great, to get started, but I think to get beyond a certain point, the training sites probably are the next step, and after that probably coaching. But it gets pricier too, so it has to be worth it for you.

#12 27th October 2009, 8:29 PM

IVe heard GUs hansens Book "every hand revealed" is one of the best out

i want to get it myself

#13 27th October 2009, 11:01 PM

dont read...the best way is experience there is not a better way to learn poker by playing it

#14 28th October 2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by brett987

dont read...the best way is experience there is not a better way to learn poker by playing it

Er, possibly, but it will cost you less to read a book or two.

#15 28th October 2009, 1:57 PM

I have read harrington on holdem and books like that, they are pretty old school, but they will teach the novice player a fair bit.

My adivce is sign up to pokervt.com

will teach you approaches that most of the winning players use

#16 31st October 2009, 3:59 PM

Underlying aspects of poker include, apart from the mathematics, Game Theory and body language. Mastering these will take you a long way.

#17 31st October 2009, 4:07 PM

Read everything you can get your hands on....take from them what you will...but play,play,and play some more! There is nothing like being there ...make every mistake out there ...then start betting REAL money after you've made every mistake in "the book"!

#18 31st October 2009, 4:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SavagePenguin

Did you read Harrington on Hold'em Volume II? Because that was a lot more beneficial to my ROI that Volume I.

I got it, now i need to find out which dvd i stuck it on.
I need to read it..

#19 31st October 2009, 5:20 PM

Assuming you are an intermediate player here is a list of books.

From cheapest to most expensive.

Ryan Fee's 6 Max NL Strategy Guide by Ryan "fees" Fee
How to Beat No-Limit Hold 'Em 6-max Cash Games by Bill "bigbabyjesus" Vosti
Small Stakes No Limit Hold'em by Ed Miller, Sunny Mehta and Matt Flynn
The Poker Puzzle by Oliver "Improva" Marx
Bobbo's Bible by Rob "BobboFitos" Eckstut
Let There be Range by Tri "SlowHabit" Nguyen and Cole "CTS" South
Easy Game by Andrew "BalugaWhale" Seidman
Memoirs of aejones by Aaron "aejones" Jones

#20 1st November 2009, 2:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dd_decker

Gus Hansen's "Every Hand Revealed" is very unique and different than other books in that he gives you his thoughts/comments on every hand he played while winning the Aussie Millions tournament. (he recorded/took notes while he played). Gives you good insight into the thinking of a professional poker player. It may help you out. I tried playing like Gus and lost my whole bankroll! Then again, I probably just thought I was playing like him, while actually playing like a donk! Anyway, it may give you a new, fresh perspective.

Lol trying to play like Gus Hansen is indeed a good way to lose your whole bankroll :-) - I think everyone must do it after reading that book.

Harrington Voll II is great and yeah would def say read "Every Hand Revealed" it's fascinating, just prob not a good idea to try and play like him.

#21 1st November 2009, 6:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ozvillain

Lol trying to play like Gus Hansen is indeed a good way to lose your whole bankroll :-) - I think everyone must do it after reading that book.

Harrington Voll II is great and yeah would def say read "Every Hand Revealed" it's fascinating, just prob not a good idea to try and play like him.

Yeah I have to agree here, I read this book alot just when I want to have a fun intresting read into the mind of a maniac, good book but you probally shouldnt try to play like Gus.

#22 1st November 2009, 7:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kadafi

I would be willing to do that but to me it always seemed like coaching sites were money making schemes that didn't teach anyone anything they couldnt learn by themselves, but im probably wrong.

do you know anyone who used one of them??

i don't have a coach but an a member of cardrunners and will have a few weeks of stoxpoker in a few days. there are many sites deucescracked is highly rated. i get mine free at trulyfreepokertraining or else i'd buy it from deucescracked. but the coaching deals are legit. you can work out a deal with them sometime of "no win no pay" there are lots of free videos at each site to get you to join google around and watch all the free ones.

#23 1st November 2009, 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by brett987

dont read...the best way is experience there is not a better way to learn poker by playing it

watching winning players play and explain there thought while doing is only going to help you learn quicker.

#24 2nd November 2009, 6:14 AM

Wish you would all quit reading the books until I have time to catch up!!

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