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| The right pot odds for a flip coin situation |
| Play Texas Hold'em Online Poker | The right pot odds for a flip coin situation | |
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| Your question is totally confusing. If there's 30 in the pot and a guy bets 250 pre, then there is 280 in the pot. And 2:1 is 33% not 50%. Also, do you mean cash or tourney. Cash game, implied odds are more important, and maybe what you are getting at. Here's a useful article: http://uk.pokernews.com/poker-strate...dds-basics.htm |
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| 30$ in the pot + raise 250 = 280$ you have to pay 250 to win 530 this is under 50% so if you consider this and equal flip 50/50 you should call. However PP is around 55/45 favorit so this is a very close decision. after that come the EV calcs this is what will happends on future streets also reffered to as implied odds, now things really starts to get tricky (you also win your own money, as when you put your money in the pot, it's not yours anymore) |
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| re: The right pot odds for a flip coin situation poker Thanks a lot for the responses! I appreciate the welcome ziggymom and sorry for the lack of introduction. slgalt, the article is great - thank you. You are correct as 2:1 is 33% and not 50% and that was the source of my confusion. To clarify: I had AJs in a 5,10 NL holdem. I raised in position pre flop to $30 and was re-raised to $130. At that point it was heads up. Baed on his prior play I figured he had a smaller pp (and was right - 99) and threw my hand. The pot was 168 (with blinds) and would give me 1.68 pot odds. Because I figured it is about 50% chance I wanted to see a minimum of 200 in the pot to make that call. Obviously I was wrong because win odds of a coin flip (I now understand) is actually 1:1 and not 2:1. However, this also implies that pre flop you should always call any bet in heads up when you get approx 50% shot (or in this case about 47%) because you will always get enough pot odds (even if just the blinds are there prior to the raise) - and that still doesn't make sense to me. It may be the right choice mathematically but it is obviously a gambler move no? |
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He could have you slaughtered with AA or KK, or you could have his AQs totally dominated. Or you could both have AK. In a cash-game, I instacall here, since AA and KK are usually going to put in a smaller raise for value, instead of shoving. In a tourney, I might pass on the bet if we are early on and blinds are low, since I'll likely play with this maniac for a couple of hours, and probably find a much better spot to felt him. |
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| re: The right pot odds for a flip coin situation poker you only need 1:1 odds or better for a coin flip. so do you call $250 my answer no. you shove your stack back at them. if you get called your still 50%(using your eg 50% not 47%) to win the pot. 1:1. but there will be a % of time the 88 will fold. of that % of time you win 100%. this is how you win a coin flip. its called fold equity. |
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| A word of advice, and dont take this the wrong way, do not play 5/10 cash games, you will get crushed. Comming here is a good start, read up on some Bankroll management articles and strategy and hand analysis posts and you will learn a lot. |
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