A/Q Question???

#1 23rd December 2008, 6:53 PM

Ok so I found quiz on another forum board and was curious to everyones output on it.
The question was as follows.
It's the first round in a pretty large mtt tourney(with 5,000),your utg+1,and look down at A/Q os.
should you fold/call/or raise to 75.
Well I like 78% of the other people said raise.
I suppose the right answer was to fold it.
Just curious what everyobe thought of this.
Personally I would never fold it preflop early in a tourney,maybe after a huge reraise,but preflop early position.
I would say test the waters and try to see where i'm at.
Also it didn't mention if it was a live or online game.

#2 24th December 2008, 5:27 PM

Are you sure the right answer was to fold? I would probably just limp here...

#3 24th December 2008, 5:34 PM

You have to raise or fold, limping is a no no here. But why fold a premium hand like AQ unless ofcourse UTG has raise already, that is the only way i would be folding this hand.

#4 24th December 2008, 5:36 PM

If the action on the table has been that someone is constantly raising, limping should be considered if maniac is susceptible. If he raises no matter what, limp. Tight table, raise 2-3 bets in that position. Quality hands should be raised, but table dynamics can be used to add deception to hand's potential. Hope it gets hit on the flop!

#5 24th December 2008, 6:29 PM

I'm with FlowJoe - need to know more of the table dynamics thus far to properly answer. The key for me being what did UTG do?

My instinct says I would probably raise unless UTG had raised, then I fold.

#6 24th December 2008, 9:54 PM

I've seen pros fold AQ in early position in a cashgame with no action behind them, but not a tourny. When playing a smaller buyin tourny I'd say this should basically always be a raising hand pre.

#7 24th December 2008, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJB-7

You have to raise or fold, limping is a no no here. But why fold a premium hand like AQ unless ofcourse UTG has raise already, that is the only way i would be folding this hand.

I'm not so sure about this. AQ is a good hand, but it's not overly tough to beat it. You don't want to be in a position where you raise and then get re-raised, because you would generally need to fold to that and you wind up losing a fair amount of chips preflop. If you limp, it makes it a lot easier to get away from it and it gives you a chance to see a flop with good pot odds without putting in very much preflop.

#8 25th December 2008, 2:01 AM

the way i read the question you are utg +1 in early round of a huge tournament. with no read on anyone at the table at all as of yet. i would just muck it and play on doesn't cost me a cent, let the donks and maniacs show themselves first. AQ is a good hand to lose alot of money with from early position.

#9 25th December 2008, 7:37 PM

Yeah, A Q is pretty good starting hand.
You have to raise with it, 3or 4BB'S

#10 25th December 2008, 11:12 PM

Yeah, I remember the question well. I said raise, and I'm usually pretty tight. But to not at least call I thought was borderline insane. Get a feel for the table? Let the table get a feel for you. How does anyone make a first impression?

#11 26th December 2008, 5:09 AM

I would probably raise most of the time. The hand is likely to be the best hand so far and you would like to see the flop with a few opponents in the hand.

Limping on the other hand is also quite a good option, but you have to figure out where you stand against multiple opponents post flop. You could definately win more by limping as you might be able to punish dominated hands that a player holds onto for too long.

Maybe limp 10% raise 90%...

#12 26th December 2008, 5:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by left52side

Ok so I found quiz on another forum board and was curious to everyones output on it.
The question was as follows.
It's the first round in a pretty large mtt tourney(with 5,000),your utg+1,and look down at A/Q os.
should you fold/call/or raise to 75.
Well I like 78% of the other people said raise.
I suppose the right answer was to fold it.
Just curious what everyobe thought of this.
Personally I would never fold it preflop early in a tourney,maybe after a huge reraise,but preflop early position.
I would say test the waters and try to see where i'm at.
Also it didn't mention if it was a live or online game.

Raise - 3-4 BB

#13 26th December 2008, 5:52 AM

Raise or fold. Not limping this hand. AQ is a good hand to lose a lot of money in early position. Be agressive in mp2+position.
See u

#14 26th December 2008, 3:41 PM

I definitly would have raised with that hand and if someone make a reraise you can still fold. Limping and foldling this hand is for me a no go or can you only raise with AA and KK in this spot?

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