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Q 10 off
Can somebody enlighten me as to why so many people online have a love affair with Q 10 offsuit? I mean, honestly, this seems to be one hand that many people cannot resist raising and re raising with. Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining because these donks practically give their money away this way, but has anybody else noticed this trend with Q 10 off?
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Yeah you see that a lot. And I don't mind that either! Same for JT, also overplayed a lot..
Personally I almost never raise with it and only limp in when the pot odds are good. |
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heh, I can remember when I would never fold preflop thinking "we get to see 3 cards, the odds of one of these hitting is pretty good, and the other people might miss". Of course this was when I was just playing with my family with play chips, but if I hadn't had friends who were decent and helped me learn, I'd be learning partly by playing for real money, and I can still remember, even after we started playing for real money, when I overplayed K9o, got lucky, and I argued with my friends that K9 was a great hand because it had 2 high cards in it lol.
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yeah, i see a lot of raising w/ 10Q off and especially JQ... i really don't understand it when the raise is in early position because any ace, king, or pair has you beat preflop, but the donkeys always get lucky vs. me it seems. when i get 10q early position i usually limp or fold depending on the blinds, but there's no way i raise with that unless im heads up or only against the blinds.
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It's not the actual cards. It's the mentality behind playing them.
Lot's of players online are very IMPATIENT. They sit there for 30 minutes getting nothing but rags, 64os, 72os, J3os, T4os...and believe me, they are getting frustrated. By the time a hand like QT comes around, it looks like AA to these people. After seeing so much junk, they don't realise that even this is junk (unless the flop puts down a monster). It all comes down to patience. JTs is a great hand to see a flop with, you have lots of outs - but if you don't hit the flop with either: Flush draw Straight draw Top pair/Overcard kicker 2 pair Trips You HAVE to fold. You have NOTHING. Some players do this with AK, they don't hit the flop - but play it to the river like they just hit quads. BF |
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Because QTo has awesome implied odds when playing against fish like myself:
FullTiltPoker Game #5506098162: Table Riviera - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:54:22 ET - 2008/03/04 Seat 1: Franky4Finggers ($29.95) Seat 2: Effexor ($25) Seat 3: s-s-trout ($18.60) Seat 4: evildedxx ($25.25) Seat 5: SpadesIlya ($24) Seat 6: brkfstcook ($45.25) Seat 7: xshameekax ($27.75) Seat 8: briancheng ($25) Seat 9: Sumkidd ($25.05) brkfstcook posts the small blind of $0.10 xshameekax posts the big blind of $0.25 Effexor posts $0.25 The button is in seat #5 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Effexor [Js Jc] briancheng has 15 seconds left to act briancheng folds Sumkidd calls $0.25 Franky4Finggers folds Effexor raises to $1 s-s-trout folds evildedxx folds SpadesIlya folds brkfstcook calls $0.90 xshameekax folds Sumkidd folds *** FLOP *** [Jh Kd 3h] brkfstcook checks Effexor has 15 seconds left to act Effexor bets $2 brkfstcook calls $2 *** TURN *** [Jh Kd 3h] A♦ brkfstcook checks Effexor bets $6.50 brkfstcook raises to $13 Effexor raises to $22, and is all in brkfstcook calls $9 Effexor shows [Js Jc] brkfstcook shows [Qs Td] *** RIVER *** [Jh Kd 3h Ad] 2♠ Effexor shows three of a kind, Jacks brkfstcook shows a straight, Ace high brkfstcook wins the pot ($48) with a straight, Ace high Effexor adds $25 *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $50.50 | Rake $2.50 Board: [Jh Kd 3h Ad 2s] Seat 1: Franky4Finggers didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: Effexor showed [Js Jc] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks Seat 3: s-s-trout didn't bet (folded) Seat 4: evildedxx didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: SpadesIlya (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: brkfstcook (small blind) showed [Qs Td] and won ($48) with a straight, Ace high Seat 7: xshameekax (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 8: briancheng didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: Sumkidd folded before the Flop |
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I seldom if ever open EP with QT, and if I were to do such a thing it would be a healthy raise semi-bluff, I too will limp from later positions with QT much of the time. It is usually a one shot thing. If I hit either I might stick around for a turn, or I might get aggressive on a T-lo-lo flop.
CO, or Button, it's often worth the steal. Thing with any splitters is that they must be played carefully, and it generally has to be a 1 shot looksee. It is also extremely table/read dependent. If the table is limping, these ain't bad limpers. |
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