Put C9 on a Range (Part 3)

Now that I'm playing hold'em again, I actually have some hands worth posting. You guys know the drill. Assign me a range of hands after my actions. The winner gets a trillion points.

Give your answers in the following form:

(Range) - Most likely Hand

example: (KT+, 88-JJ, Flushes Q high or better) - KQ



Hand #1

Ultimate Bet, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players, $2 Seven-Deuce Side Bet

MP: $152 (152 bb) 27/22/40% (Read: value bets thin)
CO: $91.60 (91.6 bb)
BTN: $175.40 (175.4 bb)
SB: $147 (147 bb)
Hero (BB): $232.50 (232.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with Xx Xx
MP raises to $3.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 3♣ 2♥ A♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($15.50) T♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $8, Hero calls $8

River: ($31.50) 7♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $22, Hero raises to $217 and is all-in What is Hero's Range?


Hand #2

Ultimate Bet, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players

Hero (SB): $62.25 (124.5 bb)
BB: $29.55 (59.1 bb)
BTN: $84.92 (169.8 bb) 75/3/16% passive fish, station

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with Xx Xx
BTN calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($12.50) A♣ 9♠ 9♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($12.50) 2♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $18 What is Hero's Range?



Hand #3

Ultimate Bet, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players

UTG: $31 (62 bb)
MP: $87 (174 bb) 28/18/24% Bad Reg
CO: $208.05 (416.1 bb)
Hero (BTN): $103.10 (206.2 bb)
SB: $53.65 (107.3 bb)
BB: $43.60 (87.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with Xx Xx
UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, CO folds, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 7♥ 9♠ Q♠ (2 players)
MP bets $3, Hero raises to $11.50, MP calls $8.50

Turn: ($26.75) 6♦ (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $19.50, MP calls $19.50

River: ($65.75) 8♠ (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $55 (puts MP all in) What is Hero's Range?

Hand 1: 77.
Hand 2: AJs+ or 910. something around there
Hand 3: J10ss

Hand 1: 77 is one of the only hands you play like that, maybe 45s

Hand 2: this one im not really sure cuz im not sure how you play in terms of balancing etc

Hand 3: pretty sure thats J10ss or just J10

1: Any set but probably 7's. Don't know if you call pre-flop with pocket 2's and 3's, and I think you'd raise with TT pre-flop and possibly on the flop. I doubt it's an ace, MP likely has the ace with a moderate-strong kicker and if you had that beat you'd have probably raised pre-flop.

2: Strong ace or the 9 in a suited connector. The pre-flop raise implies the strong ace, the check on the flop to let him catch up could be either ace or 9, I'm going with the strong ace though.

3: It looks like a flush draw, pre-flop call and then raising once the spades came out. Heavy flop semi-bluff, lost your courage a bit on the turn but the river had you convinced you were ahead. I'm guessing KJ, KT, JT. I'd include mid suited connectors but with that you'd have made two pair and you were awfully nervous on the turn.

3 is the only hand I think you could possibly be representing a hand that you don't actually have, but I still fold to you here.

1. PP 99-44 (not 77) maybe 72. pretty much think your bluffing the river here.
2. AA AK,AQ chcking the flop and over betting turn hoping for a flush chaser.
3. T8,JT QQ,99 or 77 don't really put you on a flush unless it is JTs i would guess a set here with 99 or77 most likley.

ok im adding A7s(spades) as well as Axs(spades) in to number 3.

i'm rusty but i'll make a weak attempt at this

hand 1 - i don't think 77 can c/c flop and turn, on the turn its equity is pretty massacred. A7s makes more sense to me though theres only 2 combos of it. i guess, (22-33, TT, 45s??, AT, A7) - A7? its an interesting one. it's a pretty dry board (4 or 5 is not very worrying since there are few of those in either of your ranges) and with the read that he'll value bet light it can make sense to c/c a big hand all the way intending to c/r river. even with how few hands you rep, it's hard for me to see this being a bluff but you're a sick man so anything is possible. this is probably the hand im most curious about

hand 2 - okay so given this villain we're sure this is for value. i would think this is 9x (including A9 obv), 22, 99, AK and AQ-AJ. but id say your big PFR size looks much more like AJ+ and 99 than 9x or 22. just appears you have something strong enough to build a pot with even OOP and youre pretty sure he's calling. after his min3bet and postflop check, strong chance he has something like KK or QQ and he's obviously not going to be able to fold it, so you're just going to town with a hand ahead of those

hand 3 - for value looks like JT, T8 sooted (only because im assuming T8 would have to be suited for you to call pre) or potentially any spade draw in your PF range, with the NFD and combo draws -- KJs, 67s, JTs etc. -- being more likely than others since you might flat weaker flush draws more on flop (not sure on this). also, to me it seems the most like a hand that was big on the turn. because you could have chosen turn sizing that would have set up for a better sized 3rd barrel, but you chose not to. i'd include JTs in this category of big hands since you can bet that large for FE and still have an easy call to a shove for the rest. possibly reading too much into your sizing though. also i suppose you could be turning AQ into a bluff since yous a wild wild dude

thats all i got. i didnt totally follow the rules but i'm a rebel

I wish I knew more about you than "probably doesn't suck" but... Eh, if this were me:

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with Xx Xx
MP raises to $3.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.50

My range for flatting is AJo/AQo, ATs/AJs/AQs, KQ, QJs, 88-TT (maybe JJ depending on how widely he 4-bets/well he folds to 3bets).

Flop: ($7.50) 3♣ 2♥ A♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4, Hero calls $4

I might take one off with KQs and QJs (although not spades) but I'd need villain to be spewy or very weak-tight after being called on the flop. I might peel with 88-TT as well for the same reasons, but I'm not sure I'm crazy about that.

Turn: ($15.50) T♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $8, Hero calls $8

88-99 are hopefully out of the running by now, and I guess we could slowplay TT. QJ and KQ and the aces are still somewhat plausible if villain is spewy or squeaky tight (if he's squeaky tight then he obviously has a big hand and will pay us off when we hit a straight on the river).

River: ($31.50) 7♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $22, Hero raises to $217 and is all-in What is Hero's Range?

The only hand I really like how you played is TT, so I'm going to put that up as the most likely candidate. QJs and KQs don't work all that well because we can't call the turn unless we think villain has a big hand and then we probably shouldn't bluffshove the river. Unless we think that he'll fold the river to a shove so often that calling the turn with air with the intention of shoving any river works, but that's different then. ATs could work, too, but that's thin, unless we expect to get looked up by AK/AQ often. I mean, I get that he valuebets thin but that doesn't mean he calls wide.

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Hand #2

Ultimate Bet, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players

Hero (SB): $62.25 (124.5 bb)
BB: $29.55 (59.1 bb)
BTN: $84.92 (169.8 bb) 75/3/16% passive fish, station

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with Xx Xx
BTN calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $3

Any pocket pair, AK, AQ, AJs, KQs, QJs, maybe a few more suited connectors.

Flop: ($12.50) A♣ 9♠ 9♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($12.50) 2♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $18 What is Hero's Range?

First of all, I think villain's range is almost entirely made up of hands like AA and KK/QQ. Maybe AK if he thinks that's a slowplaying hand. I don't think he's folding any of them to a turn bet with the description given, so my range is pure value: 22, 99, AK, AQ. I don't have the balls of steel required to make an oversized bluff to get him to fold JJ-KK here.


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Hand #3

Ultimate Bet, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players

UTG: $31 (62 bb)
MP: $87 (174 bb) 28/18/24% Bad Reg
CO: $208.05 (416.1 bb)
Hero (BTN): $103.10 (206.2 bb)
SB: $53.65 (107.3 bb)
BB: $43.60 (87.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with Xx Xx
UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, CO folds, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Most suited connectors and about half of the suited one-gappers, 22-TT, all suited broadways, not too many offsuit broadways.

Flop: ($3.75) 7♥ 9♠ Q♠ (2 players)
MP bets $3, Hero raises to $11.50, MP calls $8.50

77, 99, JT, XsYs, 97, T8, KQ, AQ. I think this is a terribly poor texture for bluffraising so my range contains no "pure" bluffs.

Turn: ($26.75) 6♦ (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $19.50, MP calls $19.50

Range unchanged from the flop. I bet my entire range again.

River: ($65.75) 8♠ (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $55 (puts MP all in) What is Hero's Range?

I check sets and two pairs, here. I could see turning AQ/KQ into a bluff, but I'm not sure I love it. I'm betting all straights and flushes for value.

From what i've read from c9, i think you can add "aggro spewmonkey, even though he doesn't suck".

1) I dont think your flatting 22/33 much OOP so im thinking 77/TT,A7,AT.

2)T9,89,97s,J9s,AT+,22.

3)JT,T8,97,discounted 77/99,XsXs(mostly AsXs),AQ,probably the few bluffs in your range are like As7/As9,86,

Hand 1: you have 72 and value shove 2 pairs on river.

That sounds pretty accurate.

and that's actually quite impressive i would add.

This video says you're taking the right approach to this game: http://www.cardrunners.com/members/s...eo.php?id=1858

Okay, this thread seems to have run its course...

Hand 1: I'd never check/raise the river that big on a bluff, and thus I really hate my shove on the river. I'd have preferred ~$65 or so. So my range is almost always near-nuts. 45s, 33, 22, TT, A2s, A3s, ATs. In this hand I had 33. Kinda surprised that a lot of you don't call an UTG raise with 33 OOP, even with the stacks being 150 deep.

In the hand I was torn between check/raising this flop and this option, but I figured since his AFq was high and I know he'll go for 3 streets with an ace that I could mix things up a bit and use the super fish "lol trapped u" line. And for all of you who claimed I have 77, seriously how the hell do I even get to the turn with 77, much less the river? Playing 77 OOP for bluff catching value against a guy who will v-bet light sounds like a great way to get exploited.

Villain folded to my river jam, claiming he had 27.

Hand 2: This is obviously always for value with any strong ace or better. In order to get all the money in I have to overbet a street, and I figured getting him committed ASAP was the best thing to do. I had AK, and villain called my river shove with A2s.

Hand 3: Against a reg like this, I have a lot of air in my range. His UTG range has a lot of 1 pair hands in it, and this board is going to get real scary real fast for his range. I also raise most of my draws since we're deepish and I want to be able to get all in when I hit.

I'd put my range as any 8 out draw or better, any made hand 2 pair or better, and a ton of my air/gutshots/ect.

In this hand, I had pocket 3's, and he folded to my river bet, claiming to have a queen.

I didn't pick the first hand right.

One of the unfortunate disadvantages of putting someone on a range when we haven't played them before is not knowing how they play.
Personally I call a raise with low pockets out of position with stacks a hell of a lot shorter than that, so I don't disagree with your playing it. However a lot of online players do fold those low pockets awfully easy pre-flop and eliminating those from your range I kind of got lost in that hand.

My mistake for eliminating 3's so easily and not figuring something was strange enough about the 7's getting to the river. Getting to the turn I can understand calling the flop to bluff the turn, but yeah you're right getting to the river with 77 isn't likely.