Poker Tracker or Hold'em manager?

#1 27th September 2009, 8:00 AM

Basically as the title says, which one do you own/use?

If you would like to point out why you use one over the other, good points and bad points would be great.

I am about to start the trial of PT3 and then I will trial HEM aswell before making a decision on which to buy but would love some opinions from people that have used them a lot and know them inside out.

#2 27th September 2009, 9:22 AM

Personal preference. The 2 mentioned are the top 2 out there and you won't go wrong with either one. Download 1 then the other, do the trial version of both and see which one you liked best. GL!

#3 27th September 2009, 10:44 AM

I have PT3 and have done the free trial of HEM. HEM is a lot better imo. it's a more stable program. I like the interface a lot better. They both do the same thing, I just think organizing the stats and looking at your play is a lot better with HEM. So when I have enough in my BR to buy HEM I will.

#4 27th September 2009, 7:06 PM

I use Holdem manager. I got pt3 too, but i like HEM more.
But since the programs do pretty much the same thing, it's all about personal preference.

#5 27th September 2009, 7:34 PM

Do either of these programs work with other forms of poker than holdem?

Is there anything like this for stud, or omaha?

#6 27th September 2009, 8:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonsdaleite

Do either of these programs work with other forms of poker than holdem?

Is there anything like this for stud, or omaha?

The standard programs are intended for Texas Holdem. However, Holdem Manager has an Omaha version available, and Poker Tracker has versions for Omaha and for Stud.

#7 27th September 2009, 8:32 PM

I have both, I no longer even keep PT3 installed.

#8 28th September 2009, 12:11 AM

I think the best way to sum it up is this.

Poker tracker three is the more powerful of the two in terms of customisation of stats and reports.

HEM Has a far better interface.

95% of users will never utilise the power of poker tracker. Therefore 95% of users would be better using HEM.

#9 28th September 2009, 12:26 AM

Just started to use HM it is really great to keep track of your winnings. and i really like the hand replayer. still try to learn what all the stats mean, and how to apply the info to the game.

#10 28th September 2009, 8:57 AM

I have a question--If I have been using poker tracker--can I send my stats over to HM if I start a trial there?

#11 28th September 2009, 5:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWall

I have a question--If I have been using poker tracker--can I send my stats over to HM if I start a trial there?

Not easily

PT3's output format is incompatiable with HEM (so I am told)

You could, however reimport from the "procced folder". You would get everything bar the player notes.

A bit of tweaking and you could have PT3 output to "almost processed"

HEM then import from there and output to "processed".

#12 29th September 2009, 1:24 AM

After using both It's not even close IMO.
I had used PT2 and PTO for 2+ years before I purchased PT3. What an upgrade vs PT2 for sure.

But after a few months I decided to try HEM. I didn't even make it to the end of the free trial before I purchased it. Along with having just one tracker for HE and PLO, I imediately felt more comfortable with the interface and the responsiveness of the developers.

There is seldom more than a days wait for an update after a site changes things, and if they need to, they will keep updating until all the bugs are out.
Their service is just a bonus, but a big bonus indeed.

#13 29th September 2009, 2:53 AM

How long is the trial period for HEM?

#14 29th September 2009, 3:21 AM

15 days (just checked their site). So rather than a hand count max, you are able to put it thru a few typical sessions.

#15 29th September 2009, 7:37 AM

I use PT3, as I couldn't get HEM to work for some reason.

#16 29th September 2009, 9:24 AM

I own PT3 but if i where buying a tracker today i would go with HEM.

Its basicly the same program but HEM has the better interface,easier to use and bring out updates quicker.
If had a few update related bugs with PT3, nothing that wasnt fixed in a couple days but HEM just seems to have alot less of thouse problems.

#17 29th September 2009, 9:54 AM

I tried the HEM trial and liked it alot. Still bit confused on what everything does but im sure when ive got some more money comming in i'll treat my self to HEM (i know it's only $55 but im a bit tight ATM lol) and start to tweak/learn it. It does look very nice....

#18 29th September 2009, 1:00 PM

I have both, and I prefer Holdem manager over PT3..

#19 29th September 2009, 3:29 PM

I enjoy PT3, and I like that it imports my tournament results.

I remember reading the HEM didn't support tournaments, not sure if this is still/was ever true.

#20 29th September 2009, 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Likminutz

I enjoy PT3, and I like that it imports my tournament results.

I remember reading the HEM didn't support tournaments, not sure if this is still/was ever true.

I'm interested in some different software, but haven't tried either of these two. I have used Poker Edge in the past, but am not real impressed, but still thinking about adding some tools to my shed. Does Hold EM Manager really not support stats for SNG's or MTT's? That would be a huge negative in my considerations.

#21 29th September 2009, 5:11 PM

Is it true that you can find LAG players with Poker Tracker?

#22 29th September 2009, 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMTalbert

I'm interested in some different software, but haven't tried either of these two. I have used Poker Edge in the past, but am not real impressed, but still thinking about adding some tools to my shed. Does Hold EM Manager really not support stats for SNG's or MTT's? That would be a huge negative in my considerations.

You do realize that poker edge/crusher is a illegal software and if PS/FT find out your using they could lock your acount.

#23 29th September 2009, 7:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Likminutz

I enjoy PT3, and I like that it imports my tournament results.

I remember reading the HEM didn't support tournaments, not sure if this is still/was ever true.

I am using the trial version of HEM at the moment and it difinately supports Sit n Gos. Havent tried a MTT yet but im 99% sure it supports them to

#24 29th September 2009, 8:25 PM

Does anyone know of any good PT3 or HEM video tutorials? Iv googled but having trouble finding anything decent...

#25 29th September 2009, 8:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderman637

I have both, and I prefer Holdem manager over PT3..

Me too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Likminutz

I remember reading the HEM didn't support tournaments, not sure if this is still/was ever true.

Only in its very early days of development. It has had STT and MTT support for ages.

#26 29th September 2009, 8:35 PM

I prefer PT3 but like Lik I only tried HM when it first came out. It just felt buggy and didn't support MTTs.
Maybe I'll give it another try.

#27 29th September 2009, 11:23 PM

HEM is not buggy and it supports MTTs and ring. Again both programs do the same thing. I just like HEM's interface and look a lot better.

#28 29th September 2009, 11:57 PM

Thanks for all your replies to this question.
I've been meaning to get some sort of poker software tool for some time now.
Think I'll take up the trial offers of these 2 programmes.

#29 1st October 2009, 5:44 PM

Good thread. I'm refraining from voting because I've only used PT2. I thought it was a good program overall, but the interface is horrendous. I see that hasn't improved much in PT3.

Additionally, a friend and I had a conversation recently about this and he's using PT3 now. He noted that he found several calculation errors (most notably in winning totals) and the filter often do not include/exclude the correct hands.

It's also troubling that the PT guys still don't have a mac client. Does anyone know of a decent mac tracker?

#30 2nd October 2009, 11:26 PM

Poker copilot, I believe is the best one for Mac.

#31 3rd October 2009, 4:00 AM

Own both, and i have both omaha and HE versions of hold em manager

hold em manager is definitely the one i prefer

#32 5th October 2009, 9:40 AM

Fwiw - I have HEM and love it! They also have a program you can try that comes with it called Leak Buster and that has been helpful to me as when I first purchased HEM I didn't really know what the stats meant and what goals I should be shooting for.

I first tried HEM a few months back but didn't purchase it until recently (was changing computers). I couldn't get HEM to work at all the first time I downloaded it back then and the admin had me meet him at a site where he could take over my computer and set the whole thing up for me. To me that's customer service like no other! Their support is awesome!

#33 5th October 2009, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormRaven

I couldn't get HEM to work at all the first time I downloaded it back then and the admin had me meet him at a site where he could take over my computer and set the whole thing up for me. To me that's customer service like no other! Their support is awesome!

Wow that is great. I think I have settled on HEM myself for when I get my new computer this month sometime. I have had the trial for 7 days and have been playing around a lot but havent even got to changing the HUD around yet. These programs are so in depth its kinda scary...

#34 5th October 2009, 3:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriggaLos

I have PT3 and have done the free trial of HEM. HEM is a lot better imo...
So when I have enough in my BR to buy HEM I will.

I agree with Trigga.
I use PT3 but wish I had purchased HEM intead.
However, I do not plan on buying HEM as PT3 is good enough for what I do. I mean, getting PT3 has paid for itself over and over again. But I don't think there'd be any significant boost to my BR by switching to HEM.

#35 7th October 2009, 9:11 PM

I tried them but wasn't able to get them working i don't know what the problem was.. any advice?

: Do you use PT3, HEM or something else?
Poker Tracker 3		41.51%
Hold'em Manager		49.06%
Other		9.43%
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