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  #1
2nd October 2006, 6:23 AM
jasondavies
 
Online Poker at: MANY
Game: holdem
please explain

can someone please explain if this is a deliberate thing he did, or if he is a wanker, we had been having a good heads up, all was serious, no donkey plays until this, my image was set as a solid tight player or at least i thought, I deided the time was right for a good bluff

PokerStars Game #6494701045: Tournament #32971709, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/10/02 - 00:17:08 (ET)
Table '32971709 1' 10-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: bnelson50 (8460 in chips)
Seat 6: Jason_Davies (6540 in chips)
bnelson50: posts the ante 25
Jason_Davies: posts the ante 25
bnelson50: posts small blind 200
Jason_Davies: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jason_Davies 8♥ 3
bnelson50: calls 200
Jason_Davies: raises 800 to 1200
bnelson50: calls 800
*** FLOP *** 2♠ [Tc] 4
Jason_Davies: bets 800
bnelson50: calls 800
*** TURN *** 2♠ [Tc] 4 A♠
Jason_Davies: bets 1200
bnelson50: calls 1200
*** RIVER *** 2♠ [Tc] 4 A♠ 6♠
Jason_Davies: bets 1200
bnelson50: calls 1200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jason_Davies: shows 8♥ 3 (high card Ace)
bnelson50: shows Q♣ 5♣ (high card Ace - Queen kicker)
bnelson50 collected 8850 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8850 | Rake 0
Board 2♠ [Tc] 4 A♠ 6♠
Seat 3: bnelson50 (button) (small blind) showed Q♣ 5♣ and won (8850) with high card Ace
Seat 6: Jason_Davies (big blind) showed 8♥ 3 and lost with high card Ace
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  #2
2nd October 2006, 8:21 AM
spore
 
Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: holdem
Clearly your opponent here was a donkey, just calling down with Queen high. If he had thought you didn't have anything, he would have raised. This may have been avoided if you had pushed harder. If I counted right, there was 2450 in the pot going to the flop, and you bet 800 (33%)? Then on the turn there's 4050 in the pot and you bet 1200(30%)? Again, on the river there's 6450 in the pot, and you bet 1200(19%)?

I would reccomend bets of 75% to 100% of the pot size to try and take down a pot like this. The only exception being if you are sure that your opponent is on a draw sometimes I employ the strategy of betting small on the flop/turn and checking if a card comes that would complete the suspected draw, then I'll take down the pot with a big bet on the river. It is risky as you have to be aware of what cards can make their draw, and bail if it comes out.
  #3
2nd October 2006, 8:29 AM
MrSticker
 
Online Poker at: Stars, FTP
Game: Yes, I am
Yes. Donkeys are hardest to bluff. You never know if they'll call down or fold the river. If I get calls from a donkey without at least top pair, many times I hit the brakes and check-call. It's better to wait for them to call down when you actually have a hand. Hit the brakes without one because you know they'll do it again.
 



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