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Playin Aces
I think its one of the hardest things to do in poker, is to master how to play aces especially in short handed games. For example- my aces got busted twice in one hand the other day because three handed someone raised with ace three, my aces limped in, and so did a Jack King and they caught two pair with J K and three of a kind with the three's
What is the best strategy to play these aces? I think that if you can limp in from someone else's raise then that could be a good way to play them, if you are more than 4 or 5 handed however, a re-raise could be possible with the likelihood of rag aces being out there? Lets Debate |
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Stack with them no matter what. On anything. Even on boards that are heavily coordinated for flushes and straights.
I mean, what are the odds the other guy really has it? He's probably bluffing. |
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I don't think it's ever right, in any circumstance, to just smooth call a raise with Aces. It's much better to 3bet/4bet the raiser 2.5-3x his bet. I think it's necessary to define your hand, and to show bonafide strength pre-flop, in order to put pressure on your opponent. This accomplishes two things:
1. It puts the pressure on your opponent, who is now forced to believe that you are ahead pre-flop. 2. Whether you're in late or early position, you're usually given control of the pot. Even if a person has Kings and the flop comes J-8-4 rainbow, a good player will usually check to see how you lead out. No need to mention calling down a forced bluff here. The trouble that most players have with Aces is usually the mystique that it has, that somehow Aces are the end-all to a huge payoff. However, in a game where players are likely to raise with hands like KQos, Js10s, you will really have to be the aggressor in order to save yourself from possible suckouts. One thing to be aware of is leaning just beyond the edge of the game's comfort level. What I mean is, if you notice that the game is very tight, a typical 3-5xBB raise should weed out the garbage hands before the flop. However, if the game is loose and there's a lot of action, depending on your image and position, it may be necessary to either: 1)Lead out with a very big raise from Early Position, 2) Re-Raise 3x the raiser from later position, or, 3) If you know that people are raising damn near every hand, or a couple maniacs are to your left, check with the intent of popping it up upon the raise. *Note that Number 3 is a volatile option, since these maniacs may just surprise (see: Upset) you by just smooth calling with 64offsuit. Depending on your stack and your opponents' stacks, I wouldn't try anything fancy like this unless you have them covered and you are willing to allow more players to see the flop and risk losing it all to a suckout in exchange for a possible big payout. All that being said, do know that Aces are just as good as any other hand until you see the board develop. In most cases, if you're not getting paid off from this hand, it's usually one of two things: 1) You tried to slow play the hand by building the pot / slowplaying / trapping. 2) You got all your chips into the middle with the best hand and the opponent sucked out. The biggest factor that should determine how to play your Aces should be the texture of the game, and your opponents. Pay closer attention to the pace, ebb & flow of your game, and you should know how to execute your hand accordingly. If it's not rare to see people putting it all-in Pre-Flop with 2 or 3 callers (*ahem* freerolls), then don't be scared of shoving all-in PF with your hand. Whether you get a walk or not, it's usually worth the shot. But, if the game is tight, then again, 3-5xBB is usually sufficient, and if you get 3betted, then shoving is your best play. One last thing to be aware of: Your opponents' stacks. If your opponents pops you/opens up, figure out what the pot odds are for him. If you have him/her covered, consciously try to commit them to the pot by forcing them to call/fold a bet worth at least 1/3 - 1/2 of their stack. If they've opened up with a 1/3 of their stack already, I would already be shoving them to commit the rest of their chips pre-flop, as it's just as likely that they are either putting it all in, or folding, by the turn. Last edited by Iron Mic Titan : 01-07-2008 at 9:01 AM. |
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So yeah I was just talking about how to play this...
Well... Here's what happens when you limp from EP trying to induce a bluff deep in a 2,800 person tournament. Dealer: miked2000 posts the small blind of 300 Dealer: Lance Funston 7 posts the big blind of 600 Dealer: You have been dealt [As Ac] UTG: Sax_me_the_Old calls 600 HERO: Iron Mic Titan calls 600 CO: blkislovly calls 600 BB: Lance Funston 7 checks Dealer: The flop is [6s Jd 7c] BB: Lance Funston 7 checks UTG: Sax_me_the_Old bets 1,800 HERO: Iron Mic Titan raises to 3,600 UTG: Sax_me_the_Old calls 1,800 Dealer: The turn is Q♠ BB: Sax_me_the_Old checks HERO: Iron Mic Titan bets 5,400 BB: Sax_me_the_Old raises to 26,775 HERO: Iron Mic Titan has 15 seconds left to act HERO: Iron Mic Titan raises to 35,301, and is all in BB: Sax_me_the_Old calls 8,526 Dealer: Iron Mic Titan shows [As Ac] Dealer: Sax_me_the_Old shows [Qd Jc] Dealer: The river is 4♠ Dealer: Iron Mic Titan shows a pair of Aces Dealer: Sax_me_the_Old shows two pair, Queens and Jacks Dealer: Sax_me_the_Old wins the pot (81,177) with two pair, Queens and Jacks Dealer: Iron Mic Titan finishes in 258th place So, yeah... that's what I get for not consciously thinking through the circumstance and not bumping up the bet to show strength. Idiot. |
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The only time I'll slowplay pre-flop (can count on 1 hand), is if I've got VERY aggro. on immediate left, who will raise extremely wide range. When it gets back to me... p-u-u-u-u-s-s-s-s-h-h-h-h!
Does folding AA pre-flop in a limit game count? I've done that once, just to say I could! |
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I happened to like this hand, as an example:
MissKiwi is at seat 1 with $6.81. Hero is at seat 2 with $10.11. mu33 is at seat 3 with $8.97. StringFly is at seat 4 with $10.06. The button is at seat 4. MissKiwi posts the small blind of $.05. Hero posts the big blind of $.10. MissKiwi: -- -- Hero: Ah As mu33: -- -- StringFly: -- -- Pre-flop: mu33 folds. StringFly raises to $.30. MissKiwi folds. Hero re-raises to $1. StringFly re-raises to $3.05. Hero calls. Flop (board: Tc Td 2h): Hero checks. StringFly bets $6. Hero goes all-in for $7.06. StringFly goes all-in for $7.01. Hero is returned $.05 (uncalled). Turn (board: Tc Td 2h 4c): (no action in this round) River (board: Tc Td 2h 4c Ad): (no action in this round) Showdown: Hero shows Ah As. Hero has Ah As Tc Td Ad: full house, aces full of tens. StringFly shows Js Jd. StringFly has Js Jd Tc Td Ad: two pair, jacks and tens. |
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