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This is a discussion on Omaha within the online poker forums, in the Strategy Forum section; Does anyone have a starting hand guide they use for pot omaha high, or what kind of hands do they play more often in omaha ...
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  #1
11th September 2009, 7:37 AM
GordonStr222
 
Plays at: POKER_STARS
Game: HOLD_EM
Omaha

Does anyone have a starting hand guide they use for pot omaha high, or what kind of hands do they play more often in omaha then they play with in holdem?
What about percentages in omaha?
I know about the 2+4 rule in holdem is there something similar for omaha?
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  #2
17th September 2009, 10:02 PM
spiderman637
 
Plays at: carbon
Game: HOLDEM
The 2+4 for holdem can apply to Omaha - you just have more outs to count!

I don't play much Omaha but remember two good holdem hands does not always make a good Omaha hand. Eg 67sAK is not a great Omaha hand but 67s and AK are good hold'em hands. Don't get caught out!
  #3
17th September 2009, 10:57 PM
the knob
 
Plays at: Paradise
Game: limit HE
You're looking for four cards that play well together, or two pairs of cards that play well together. Double suited aces with face cards is nice, goes down from there. One big thing about Omaha that new players don't acknowledge is that Omaha is more of a drawing game due to the four cards. You might have the nuts on the flop, but draws to a straight, flush, or full house can catch up quick, especially if an opponents has both draws in their hand. Also, be careful about drawing yourself to a non-nut straight or flush as changes are someone has the cards to beat you - at a full ring table, 41 of 52 cards (including the board) will be in play.
  #4
18th September 2009, 10:15 AM
whoopwhoop
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: Omaha/Stud
High suited connectors and high pairs are golden in omaha. Discipline is also necessary though. Sometimes you must laydown the smaller full house. It's a tougher game, but that's why I love it.
  #5
18th September 2009, 4:16 PM
kmixer
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: PLO / PLO8
re: Omaha poker

If you are serious about getting into Omaha full time you need to check out Jeff Hwang's first book. A lot of what he talks about must be adjusted for playing lower than the stakes he mentions but this is a must have book.

I play a lot of PLO8 so the starting hands are way different. He touches on this format as well.

Check it out!
  #6
18th September 2009, 5:37 PM
Jarod1231
 
Game: Omaha
I prefer hands like QJT9 double suited to hands like AA69 rainbow... also like kmixer said the hands change when you switch to plo8 where I would prefer a hand like AK23 double suited or AA23 double suited
  #7
18th September 2009, 6:40 PM
kmixer
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: PLO / PLO8
Run down hands like AKQJ and 10987 have a lot of potential especially when suited or double suited.

Jarod....I actually like to have Ace suited with a pair that does not match the suit of my Ace suited like A10d with 8h8c
  #8
20th September 2009, 12:23 AM
Jarod1231
 
Game: Omaha
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmixer
Run down hands like AKQJ and 10987 have a lot of potential especially when suited or double suited.

Jarod....I actually like to have Ace suited with a pair that does not match the suit of my Ace suited like A10d with 8h8c
I like hands like that too... I tend to avoid any hands where I have a rainbow unless I have two pairs in my hand or I'm playing from the blind... too often you'll flop a straight and get flushed out on
  #9
23rd September 2009, 10:43 PM
GordonStr222
 
Plays at: POKER_STARS
Game: HOLD_EM
Wow, it took a week to get some replies to this threat..... Thanks for the info everyone....... I'm going to look for that omaha book...
  #10
26th September 2009, 6:26 PM
whoopwhoop
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: Omaha/Stud
re: Omaha poker

High pairs, high suited connectors, and high straight cards are played a lot in omaha. Low straight cards are too. Don't get caught up into the lower flush while playing omaha, often times that's how you lose your entire bankroll.
  #11
26th September 2009, 6:56 PM
Grossberger
 
Plays at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
If you also play on fulltilt check out the Full Tilt poker Academy and Brandon Jacobs talks about Omaha one thing he says is to stay away from hand like 8744 6733 because if you do hit a set you could always be beat by a higher set. but check those lessons out really gave me alot of info.
  #12
1st October 2009, 4:26 AM
Tygran
 
Plays at: Stars
Game: NLH
Rule 1: Rainbow hands are bad

Rule 2: Connectedness/Suitedness are good

Rule 3: Higher is better

Rule 4: The more and the higher the gaps in your rundown the worse it is. JT98 with at least one suit is a phenomonal hand. JT97 is still quite good but not as good. J987 is playable but considerably weaker. J976 is close to trash.

Rule 5: AAxx hands with at least one suit are general very strong, but mainly because of your double chances of making top set/full house or a nut flush. The better the side cards the better the AAxx. AAKK DS or AAJT DS are a couple of the best hands in the game. AA74 rainbow is pretty close to trash.

Rule 6: Pairs in your hand are generally a bad thing. QQ, JJ, TT etc are nowhere near as strong as they are in hold em. you don't want to play hands with pp's below say 77 or 88 and even the mid-pair you need good cards to go with them (something like T988 with a suit is an ok hand for example)

Or, to paraphrase rule 6 in simpler yet very true terms, *ahem*: "BOTTOM SET IS NEVER GOOD!"

Rule 7: Position matters more in omaha than hold em, regardless of your holding. playing hands from the blinds, especially when calling a raise can be costly.
  #13
1st October 2009, 5:06 AM
Makwa
 
Plays at: Lay-zz-Boy
Game: all of em
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tygran
Rule 1: Rainbow hands are bad

Rule 2: Connectedness/Suitedness are good

Rule 3: Higher is better

Rule 4: The more and the higher the gaps in your rundown the worse it is. JT98 with at least one suit is a phenomonal hand. JT97 is still quite good but not as good. J987 is playable but considerably weaker. J976 is close to trash.

Rule 5: AAxx hands with at least one suit are general very strong, but mainly because of your double chances of making top set/full house or a nut flush. The better the side cards the better the AAxx. AAKK DS or AAJT DS are a couple of the best hands in the game. AA74 rainbow is pretty close to trash.

Rule 6: Pairs in your hand are generally a bad thing. QQ, JJ, TT etc are nowhere near as strong as they are in hold em. you don't want to play hands with pp's below say 77 or 88 and even the mid-pair you need good cards to go with them (something like T988 with a suit is an ok hand for example)

Or, to paraphrase rule 6 in simpler yet very true terms, *ahem*: "BOTTOM SET IS NEVER GOOD!"

Rule 7: Position matters more in omaha than hold em, regardless of your holding. playing hands from the blinds, especially when calling a raise can be costly.
This is a fair start.. generally u need 4 cards that work together, not just 2; u have 6 possible combinations for str8s, fls etc. AK means nothing; HE is another game. U are looking for lots of draws on all streets then JAM! Is a very aggressive game the way I play.
  #14
1st October 2009, 5:38 AM
Maid Marian
 
Plays at: FT/Carbon
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tygran
Rule 1: Rainbow hands are bad

Rule 2: Connectedness/Suitedness are good

Rule 3: Higher is better

Rule 4: The more and the higher the gaps in your rundown the worse it is. JT98 with at least one suit is a phenomonal hand. JT97 is still quite good but not as good. J987 is playable but considerably weaker. J976 is close to trash.

Rule 5: AAxx hands with at least one suit are general very strong, but mainly because of your double chances of making top set/full house or a nut flush. The better the side cards the better the AAxx. AAKK DS or AAJT DS are a couple of the best hands in the game. AA74 rainbow is pretty close to trash.

Rule 6: Pairs in your hand are generally a bad thing. QQ, JJ, TT etc are nowhere near as strong as they are in hold em. you don't want to play hands with pp's below say 77 or 88 and even the mid-pair you need good cards to go with them (something like T988 with a suit is an ok hand for example)

Or, to paraphrase rule 6 in simpler yet very true terms, *ahem*: "BOTTOM SET IS NEVER GOOD!"

Rule 7: Position matters more in omaha than hold em, regardless of your holding. playing hands from the blinds, especially when calling a raise can be costly.
This is really helpful to me...I thought that Omaha was supposed to be played nearly like hold-em...I guess I'd better practice alot more before 8-game! LOL!
  #15
1st October 2009, 6:20 AM
Tygran
 
Plays at: Stars
Game: NLH
re: Omaha poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makwa
This is a fair start.. generally u need 4 cards that work together, not just 2; u have 6 possible combinations for str8s, fls etc. AK means nothing; HE is another game. U are looking for lots of draws on all streets then JAM! Is a very aggressive game the way I play.


Yeah exactly.... 2 hold em hands (like AK and 88) don't make much of PLO hand

the more all 4 cards in your hand work together, the better.
 



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