Ok so you find a tight table, how do you play at it?

Ok, well on UB one night i find a real tight tag table. How would you play it?? Would you go looser, or play tight yet????
After i get some views i will say how i played the table, till i ran everyone off the table

When I get an extremely tight table (i.e the BB makes it around quite a lot, less the 2XBB raises usually cause folds or at most heads up) I play much more aggressive. Not completely LAG, but definitely more loose with position. I'll start calling more mediocre hands with the button just to be able to make moves. Hell I've even raised with 3-5o on the button just to show strength. The key is to pick your spots and be willing to let a raise go if you get reraised and don't hit.

This is the BS I hate, and no doubt you are asking about NLHE. I've seen a lot of this bully play trickle down to Omaha. or even worse, Razz - ,and baby, it's just a matter of time. I've also reveled in the 'let a raise go if you get reraised'. In the end, I'll knock these flat on their asses', man, you can just feel their panic when they get a raise, and again, and again. Yeah, keep showing your 'strength'. I'm keeping tabs on how often you try to pull this BS. These people at your table are tight, but not idiots.

That's exactly why you don't pull it that often. If you're constantly raising at a tight table then what you're talking about is going to happen. Especially if any of the tight players get a premium hand (JJ or higher). My point is if you're constantly seeing everyone fold to the BB every now and then you can play a weak and get away with it. Once again, the key is knowing when to get away from it and not continuing to show strength and bet out at it when you have nothing.

And secondly the only way for you to know someone is "pulling that BS" is if you call them down to the river or they show. I'm not showing that kind of bluff unless I want to put someone on tilt with it, at which point i'm not pulling that move against that person (or the table) again any time soon.

True, moderation is key. I lived and died this afternoon by someone who constantly raised, I mean constantly. Finally when I reraised, and he stood pat, I didn't believe it, reraised, and lost 2/3 my stack. Still, I feel if I can guard againt tilt, I can beat him. Thing is, hand strength is also a factor of odds to some degree. You are already playing the ones you get plus....any degree much over 25% is easily detectable, much less 75%, as BS.

Like I said before, someone pulls their BS too many times odd-wise, you can be assured he is BSing. You want to tilt someone with that BS, either they're gonna beat your azz rightfully, or get you to fold with their own bad hand because you're gonna fold to any agression - you're just not used to it. Once I catch on to your game, it's not only less effective, I use it to bite you in your own azz with it, especially when you're in earlier position, a typicle tactic to get me to fold - nothing sweeter.

I'll grant you that. Let me give you an example of what I mean. As I said, very tight table for 1-2NL. BB is making it around at least half the ring and mostly a 5-10 raise preflop gets no calls or maybe 1. I'm sitting on the button and someone throws out $7, there's 1 caller. I have 5-3o on the button and I raise it up to $22. the SB calls, the original raiser folds, so i'm heads up with the SB.

Flop comes out K-4-9 rainbow. He checks I check. He comments "that strong huh?" I said "no flush out there nothing for me to worry about". Turn comes an A, still rainbow. once again check check. I hit my 5 (as if it's good) on the river. Once again he checks, I bet about 3/4 the pot and he folds JJ (he flipped it over).

My point being two things:
1) Some times people that are ubertight are so worried when someone raises that unless they monster it they can't see anything else worth calling.

2) As long as its in moderation (maybe once every copule of go rounds) you can get away with playing looser because of how tight the table is.

Well, your explanation to me is ridiculous. He folded seeing 2 overs. Your chit-chat about the flush is obviously seen as a distraction, more BS. Your raise here was seen as slow-rolling the previous card (the ace), especially in light of your preflop raise, probably an ace - adios.

And if you were able to figure that out and slam my fingers in the cookie jar, then I would tap the felt and say nice call. My whole point in all of this is with a super tight table you can get away with bluffing every now and then because of the nature of the table. It's real easy to say you'd see everything and be able to sniff out my "BS" (and quite possibly you could). It's another thing to actually do it at the table. And once again, I would give you kudos if you did.

You're probably right. I must admit, that jerk will have his way with me the 1st so rounds. Then look out. If at an MTT, maybe you'll bet moved a lot. At my last one...not so much. I know what you're saying. If used sparingly, bluffs works, and sure they do. Don't overdo it it, you will get SO burned.

A "BS" bluff in 2NLHE can cost you big time, tight arg has a problem.

That's exactly why you can't waste it or repeat it very often. Pick your spots when you're going to bluff and you'll see a lot more success with it.

I would definitly play it more loose. Usually you go with opposites. If the
people are playing loose, you just wait for that monster cause you know
that most likely someone will pay you off when it comes. If the table is
tight, you get the chance to steal a lot, but in the right moments, and you
know what most of their raises arnt worth calling. Those are the rules
of engagement in my part, and I have been doing good with it with my
play money in full tilt hehehe:P

You should play looser then, but don't raise every hand ,control your agression and play agressive in late position . If you get called you know your opponent have a big hand and try to find out what he has on the flop.

when I spot someone at the table thats taking advantage of tight play, I use it to my advantage. With position and good hands I'll let them try their bluff them push them in. couple times of having to fold big pots, they usually back off

usually occur at the late stages of the tournaments where everybody is deepstacks. Chances are you are playing tight as well at this stage of the tournament with good cards.

Tight tables at the early stages of a tournement sometimes happen but is very rare. most people are loose because the blinds are small and like to see flops.

if your lucky bluffing can work at a tight table, but usually tight players see loose aggression as an opportunity to increase their stack.

play a loose game trying to steal the blinds and take control of the table... also avoid the risking of calling raising cause if a tight players raise its because he has a very good hand like ak, qq, so if you have an averige hand like k10 just fold it and wait for a really good hand to make a re raise...

playing a looser game works, you only need to drop down to 56 to take over the table, i was doing so good that everyone left the table in the end how ever if theres a raise preflop fold it.... Your play all depends on the table your playing, and you must change how you play for that table... Thanks CCer's for that bit of help in my game.

I will start stealing more, c-bet more, 2nd barrel more, and min-raise more because the minraise with start to loosen up the table. One note though, I won't just bet at the pot with absolutely nothing, i will say, raise with a pair and and open ender, if i have a flush and a straight draw, or the nut draw. This usually will take down the pot at an agressive table, and if you steal more often and raise a little more, they will start to protect their blinds and bets, and bet back at you. I also love to raise with suited connectors because if alot of people are going in with high cards, it's great for deception and it's great sometimes when the board hits high, and when rags flop it keeps them from trying to steal the flop with their AQ or something. GOOD LUCK!

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play at tight tables is horrible,evryone waiting for big starting hands to bet with, i play aggressively but with respect ,usually i,ll get off the table cause playing with nits takes forever to profit from and sooner or later you will get 3 bet and its always a strong hand your looking at, which your opponent( if he is a nit will overplay/overvalue his big cards ) will get his money in with.
play at tight tables makes (for me)unenjoyable poker so i simply try and avoid it ,theres always another game to go to where its not so predictable and boring


also minraising is almost always a wrong thing to do ,

couple ways to do it.. you could play every hand and take down most pots... or you could try to change the dinamics of the table by going loose a few hands and showing.. then tighten up.... personally i would throw a small bet out there at most pots and at a lot of blinds wehn im in position...

I agree with this theory. I've learned when the table is tight you can loosen your starting hand requirements, especially in position, and pick up a few pots and blinds. It's important to pick your spots.

I normally don't show the bluffs, if they show or say what they had and it was better than my hand I will lie and say good fold or something. If I do get called at showdown I will usually say something about how I misread them and good hand.

I will play this way until the table loosens up or I get caught then I will tighten back up, aggression is usually there either way.

It's important to feel when the table starts getting tired of your bullying. When that happens you'll have the entire table out to get you.

Hmmm I did not even think of that till last night, to when there was a bully at the table, and did it every time i raised the pot, and with A10 AQ.. He pushed and i know he was pushing with crap, and i called him on two hands
I do tend to make sure that i don't bully the table to much.

Taylor Caby aka "Green Plastic" will sometimes raise every hand to loosen up a tight table. Then he'll do his magic from there. Of course he is the poster child for LAG.