nut flush, but he still had outs(so did I!)

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  #1
9th December 2006, 2:00 PM
KerouacsDog
 
Poker at: PS/Ultimatebet/FT
nut flush, but he still had outs(so did I!)

I had just played a bluff the previous hand, firing at the flop, turn and river, and making the other guy fold, before showing the bluff(notice the chat, I got called a bluffer), when this hand came up. I raise it PF to 20 cents, and everyone called,I checked the flop, and he(77) did a pot-sized bet, I called and everyone folded. With the turn, I bet(forget how much), and he went all-in. Obviously I didnt know he held 77, so he had an out(7), but I also had an out if needed(Jack of hearts).
After this hand, I played 3 more hands, then the table started emptying, so I left.
PS Does this qualify anywhere in the scavenger hunt?
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  #2
9th December 2006, 2:24 PM
KerouacsDog
 
Online Poker at: PS/Ultimatebet/FT
An earlier hand which I showed:
Game # 478495181 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0,02/0,04 - Table "Nuenen"
Game ended 2006-12-09 13:19:58 GMT+01:00

Players:
KerouacDog (EUR 7,55 in seat 1)
Jartsi83 (EUR 1,00 in seat 2)
Almademus (EUR 5,06 in seat 3)
STONES1965 (EUR 2,98 in seat 4)
jarppaa (EUR 1,20 in seat 5)
Facetious (EUR 1,96 in seat 6)

Dealer: jarppaa
Small Blind: Facetious (0,02)
Big Blind: KerouacDog (0,04)
Blind out of turn: Jartsi83 (0,04)

KerouacDog was dealt: Qc - 7c

Jartsi83 Check
Almademus Raise (0,08)
STONES1965 Call (0,08)
jarppaa Call (0,08)
Facetious Fold
KerouacDog Call (0,04)
Jartsi83 Call (0,04)

Flop 8s - 2d - Ad

KerouacDog Check
Jartsi83 Check
Almademus Check
STONES1965 Check
jarppaa Check

Turn 8s - 2d - Ad - Kd

KerouacDog Bet (0,16)
Jartsi83 Fold
Almademus Fold
STONES1965 Call (0,16)
jarppaa Fold

River 8s - 2d - Ad - Kd - Th

KerouacDog Bet (0,30)
STONES1965 Fold
KerouacDog Payback (0,30)

KerouacDog shows: Qc - 7c (high card ace)

KerouacDog wins: EUR 0,71 (with high card ace)
Rake: EUR 0,03

This is the hand history, which I wish I had checked before making this post as I got it a bit wrong!
Notice the callers when I raised, and the re-raise from 77 guy.
Did I have pot-odds to make the call? I was up 4 euros, it was a 64 cent call for me, that's all the pot odds I need!

Game # 478495359 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0,02/0,04 - Table "Nuenen"
Game ended 2006-12-09 13:23:59 GMT+01:00

Players:
KerouacDog (EUR 6,06 in seat 1)
Jartsi83 (EUR 2,70 in seat 2)
Almademus (EUR 4,92 in seat 3)
STONES1965 (EUR 4,33 in seat 4)
jarppaa (EUR 0,96 in seat 5)
Facetious (EUR 0,36 in seat 6)

Dealer: Almademus
Small Blind: STONES1965 (0,02)
Big Blind: jarppaa (0,04)

KerouacDog was dealt: Ah - Kh

Facetious Call (0,04)
KerouacDog Raise (0,18)<---hoping for one or 2 callers.........
Jartsi83 Fold
Almademus Call (0,18)<----thanks
STONES1965 Call (0,16)<----thanks
jarppaa Raise (0,28)<----thanks
Facetious Fold
KerouacDog Call (0,14)<----thanks
Almademus Call (0,14)<----thanks
STONES1965 Call (0,14)<----thanks

Flop 7h - 6s - Qh<----nice flop for both

STONES1965 Check
jarppaa All-In (0,64)
KerouacDog Call (0,64)
Almademus Fold
STONES1965 Fold

Turn 7h - 6s - Qh - Th
River 7h - 6s - Qh - Th - 2h

jarppaa shows: 7s - 7d (three of a kind, sevens)<----unlucky, i feel real bad for you, add me to your buddy list, Im a muppet!
KerouacDog shows: Ah - Kh (a flush, ace high)

KerouacDog wins: EUR 2,50 (with a flush, ace high)<----not bad for a 2c/4c table
Rake: EUR 0,10



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  #3
9th December 2006, 8:05 PM
NineLions
 
Poker at: PS, FT
You're an animal, KD. Nice job.
  #4
9th December 2006, 8:12 PM
joosebuck
 
Online Poker at: 911POKER.COM
Game: strip poker
re: nut flush, but he still had outs(so did I!) poker

KerouacDog Bet (0,16)
Jartsi83 Fold
Almademus Fold
STONES1965 Call (0,16)
jarppaa Fold


careful about bluffing with that many people in the pot.
  #5
9th December 2006, 8:14 PM
Jack Daniels
 
Poker at: home.
Game: Da Bears
Quote:
Originally Posted by KerouacsDog
Did I have pot-odds to make the call? I

KerouacDog was dealt: Ah - Kh
Facetious Call (0,04)
KerouacDog Raise (0,18)<---hoping for one or 2 callers.........
Jartsi83 Fold
Almademus Call (0,18)<----thanks
STONES1965 Call (0,16)<----thanks
jarppaa Raise (0,28)<----thanks
Facetious Fold
KerouacDog Call (0,14)<----thanks
Almademus Call (0,14)<----thanks
STONES1965 Call (0,14)<----thanks

Flop 7h - 6s - Qh<----nice flop for both

STONES1965 Check
jarppaa All-In (0,64)
KerouacDog Call (0,64)
Almademus Fold
STONES1965 Fold
Yes, the call was correct. You were getting just over 3 to 1 on your money. With nine outs and two cards to come, odds are 1.86 to 1 to make your nut flush. Instascall, is the word, I think.
  #6
9th December 2006, 8:23 PM
PopDog60
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: NL Hold'Em
Nice hand KD

Woulda been nice to hit that J of hearts just for some braggin rights though
  #7
9th December 2006, 8:26 PM
Jack Daniels
 
Poker at: home.
Game: Da Bears
Quote:
Originally Posted by PopDog60
Nice hand KD

Woulda been nice to hit that J of hearts just for some braggin rights though
And it would have given you # 1 for the scavenger hunt.
  #8
9th December 2006, 8:52 PM
KerouacsDog
 
Online Poker at: PS/Ultimatebet/FT
re: nut flush, but he still had outs(so did I!) poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by joosebuck
KerouacDog Bet (0,16)
Jartsi83 Fold
Almademus Fold
STONES1965 Call (0,16)
jarppaa Fold


careful about bluffing with that many people in the pot.
yeah, i know that(thanks seriously for reminding me though!), but I had done the same move a lot earlier with the same guys, using the same betting pattern, and I had the nut straight then(and showed), so I figured I was good for a few more bluffs.

Last edited by KerouacsDog : 9th December 2006 at 8:53 PM. Reason: added
  #9
11th December 2006, 9:00 AM
myxiplx
 
Poker at: empire poker
Game: Texas Holdem
What is this scavenger hunt I keep reading about? I can't find anything about it if I search, but it's mentioned all over the place.
  #10
11th December 2006, 9:39 AM
rottyowner65
 
Online Poker at: 2many2name1
Game: 2girlsATonce
Quote:
Originally Posted by myxiplx
What is this scavenger hunt I keep reading about? I can't find anything about it if I search, but it's mentioned all over the place.
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  #11
11th December 2006, 9:45 AM
myxiplx
 
Poker at: empire poker
Game: Texas Holdem
Aaah, my search didn't go wide enough. Thanks
  #12
11th December 2006, 2:41 PM
blankoblanco
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold 'em
re: nut flush, but he still had outs(so did I!) poker

Nice hand! Although to nitpick, you didn't really have "outs" because you had the nuts on the turn. No hand he could have held would have required you to catch the J of hearts as an out... you just had to dodge the board pairing. Quite close to a royal though; I need me one of them for the scavenger hunt too!
  #13
11th December 2006, 5:44 PM
KerouacsDog
 
Poker at: PS/Ultimatebet/FT
Quote:
Originally Posted by combuboom
Nice hand! Although to nitpick, you didn't really have "outs" because you had the nuts on the turn. No hand he could have held would have required you to catch the J of hearts as an out... you just had to dodge the board pairing. Quite close to a royal though; I need me one of them for the scavenger hunt too!
I actually thought I called him before hitting the flush, that's why I was wondering about the 'outs' that I had, compared to him.
 




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