Never limp preflop into a unopen pot?

is there ever a time when limping as the first better into the pot is advantages?
I believe it's always better to raise into a unopen pot when you are the first one into the pot preflop.

When you you want to play your hand, but you would not call a three bet; most people at your table have been limping with hands stronger than your hand.

Don't limp when first to put money in PF!

The only rare situation I would do it - maniac shoving 50% of his hands sitting to my left, I have a good hand that I want to play if possible, but not go all in with (ATs for example).

You can only play like this if your a super nit. What % of hand do you raise with?

Just because you don't limp when you enter the pot doesn't mean you are a nit!!

I play around 18/14 at 6max, tight but hardly a nit

Sometimes I call rasies from others preflop, but I never limp in when I am the FIRST one to put money in the pot. Makes sense?

does to me.

I've had to do it in a tournament before. Guy to my left was relentlessly defending his blinds so the only way I could steal was to limpand then just bet out when a high card came.

Never.

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this, but also never say never when it comes to poker. i can imagine a situation where i would limp, but this would only be dictated by table dynamics and not by cards or anything

Yea if you have a reason for limping i.e. you expect it to mostly have a particular reaction from other players that you can then use or exploit to your advantage, then yea I agree. But you also know something about what you are doing. (At least you have fooled me into thinking so...)

A beginner should simply leave open limping out of his/her vocabulary.

I want to clarify I asking about cash games
In tournaments there is a few situations where limping as the first one into the pot is okay
But in a cash game I can't think of one situation when it's preferable

You're such a tease!

Villian shoves 100% of pots with no raisers, he is directly to our left and we pick up a premium. There will always be spots where certain plays that are usually horrible are in fact optimal.

Nit :P

nit

very nit.

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Shit, maybe I [i]am[i] a nit!

Not maybe, you are are.

Never is a good enough answer.

Obviously, there are spots where it is optimal, but for someone who has to ask if you shouldn't be open limping, they shouldn't be open limping.

First if you are limping you are calling not betting and yes there are situations where a open limp is a decent play - it depends on a range of factors including but not limited to the following - your image, the other players, the type of game being played, is it a cash game or tourney. If it is a tourney add in your stack and the size of the blinds. The key is to know why you are limping and have a plan to cover the reaction of the rest of the table.

i have a bad habit of limpin and i usually lose

So far no open limping however never say never
I been playing in extremely tight 6max games with lots of 2 and 3 bet folds
I think limping with KK or AA to open the pot might be a good play in this type of table

Adjust by open raising more hands, not fewer.

In PLO limping can be very profitable

Don't.

You'll only have yourself to blame when someone hits a set and takes all your chips.

Shortstacking with a very agressive person on your left. So you can get your stack in with premium PLO hands.

Dont.

dont limpie w the kangs or aces...that 1 in7 chance will come more than 1 in 7.. It angers the poker gods and causes baby jesus to weep.

I have Been a professional poker player for 5 years without any other income... I play 2-5 NL buy in for 200. First four seats in a 10 handed game UTG UTG+1 etc NEVER OPEN RAISE Limp AA KK QQ JJ AK EXCEPT UTG OR UTG+1 then fold 10-10. If someone raises behind u and no one else re-raises SHOVE ALL IN . un less u have JJ or TT and one very tight player raises and no one else calls then fold unless they only raise to 15 then smooth call and hope for a set.... sit down behind the button when u first come in pay the blinds once if your table seems tight leave...if your table is loose at least 1 player straddling or just alot of action stay and wait.... That is an excellent fcking shortstacking 2-5 strat I've been winning with for years....oh and if u win a pot making your stack too deep LEAVE CASH OUT walk 15 minutes to the next poker room...las vegas rules

If its raised and re-raised behind you AA and KK definetly shove everytime even if 4 bet to you....AKs is a it depends on the raisers i'd be a hell of alot more ready to thow queens sailing into the muck before I'd lay down AK suited AK off with 2 raises in front of me both raisers would have to be loose agressive maniacs for me to shove...Now say you limp with ur queens under the gun and no one raises no problem if u flop ur set your golden Play VERY AGGRESSIVELy if the board shows any draws over bet the hell out of it it someone bets 20 shove all in for ur remaining 195.... If an ace or a king flops and anyone bets fold its easy.... maybe raise with aces in the 3rd or 4th seat to 25$...

@ Marginal Could you give some arguments?

Well Kinda sluggish right now but in response to your last post.

If they are aggro, they probably 3 bet a lot. If we have a proper short stack we cant get it in preflop with just ourselves 3 betting. So lets raise, let them 3 bet and jam.
Thats 1.
2 open limping is just terrible cause it is terrible, nothing more needs to be said.