Never fold AA or KK, never slow play them either?

What preconditions do you guys think you need to slowplay AA or KK? I just played the $24k guarentee and cashed, barely. Only got my buyin back plus like $10. I had AA a lot that tourney, like 4 times. Every time I had it in middle position and raised 3x bb, and every time everyone folded. The blinds were fairly high and the table was aggressive, and now I kinda wish I limped with AA a few times to catch someone.

Maybe that's one of the few occasions that people would consider doing it

I would have to say that AA and KK are the two hardest hands to play period. No other hands puts you in the positions that these two hands put you in

The time to slowplay AA is when you decide you hate money.

Wth A/A you want as much money in the pot pre-flop as possible, with only one or two villains seeing the flop. The more people who see the flop the more likely you are to get hurt by something weird.

There are times to slow play A/A though. If you're short handed, especially heads up you don't have to worry about too many people seeing the flop. You also want the other guy to hit top pair so you can stack him, because it's easy to pot-commit a guy at the end of a tournament due to the high blinds/antes.

Or if someone is very aggressive, you check to let him bet for you.

Another situation would be if you were in the BB against an aggressive SB. You can let him bet for you each street. Maybe even re-raise when a small card hits the turn to have him try to chase you off a bluff.

But at a full table under normal circumstance, you pretty much have to bet A/A. It's better take the blinds than to get called by four players.

Here is why i wouldn't recommend limping AA preflop at a full table.

Full Tilt Poker Game #7023995890: $32,000 Guarantee (52683490), Table 136 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:09:05 ET - 2008/06/29
Seat 1: Mike Rafferty (8,070)
Seat 2: coinman80 (5,820)
Seat 3: Chillsports (2,635)
Seat 4: l Love Beer (6,620)
Seat 5: cofftea (6,735)
Seat 6: Barrasso (2,195)
Seat 7: nathant222 (3,140)
Seat 8: sniper_AA (3,115)
Seat 9: NiceFrush (9,165)
Chillsports posts the small blind of 60
l Love Beer posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to l Love Beer [3d 7c]
cofftea folds
Barrasso folds
nathant222 folds
sniper_AA folds
NiceFrush folds
Mike Rafferty folds
coinman80 calls 120
Chillsports calls 60
l Love Beer checks
*** FLOP *** [9d 7d 3c]
Chillsports checks
l Love Beer bets 240
coinman80 raises to 480
Chillsports has 15 seconds left to act
Chillsports folds
l Love Beer calls 240
*** TURN *** [9d 7d 3c] 7♥
l Love Beer checks
coinman80 checks
*** RIVER *** [9d 7d 3c 7h] J♠
l Love Beer has 15 seconds left to act
l Love Beer bets 960
coinman80 calls 960
*** SHOW DOWN ***
l Love Beer shows [3d 7c] a full house, Sevens full of Threes
coinman80 shows [Ah As] two pair, Aces and Sevens
l Love Beer wins the pot (3,240) with a full house, Sevens full of Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,240 | Rake 0
Board: [9d 7d 3c 7h Js]
Seat 1: Mike Rafferty didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: coinman80 (button) showed [Ah As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: Chillsports (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: l Love Beer (big blind) showed [3d 7c] and won (3,240) with a full house, Sevens full of Threes
Seat 5: cofftea didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Barrasso didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: nathant222 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: sniper_AA didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: NiceFrush didn't bet (folded)

Okay well we can agree on that but that doesn't really tell us what to do here now does it. One more point I would make here is that this guy is raising hands up only 5% of the time preflop and has raised utg. Given that we have K,K it is unlikely villain has A,K. A,Q is certainly a possibility I suppose but I think his range is weighted heavily enough towards a high pocket pair to get it in here. I think villain shows up with J,J type hands a lot.

I'd feel more comfortable if we had villain with the same stats over 100+ hands but I do think 50 hands is significant enough here to make me lean towards getting it in. Interested to hear other opinions

If you never slow play a hand like AA or KK you are limiting your game and making it very easy for someone to read your play.If everytime you fast play AA or KK it's going to be very easy for someone to lay down their AQ or AJ or medium pairs to you because they know what you are probably holding.

I only slow play AA if everyone fold around to me in the SB in the hope I can squeeze come chips out of the BB

I have had AA and KK cracked so many times. I try to bet big pre flop to get rid of the marginal hands that seem to suck out on you. After the flop I play them carefully. I have lost big with AA and KK.

I would say never to slow play either just because you give someone the chance to catch.... You definitely need to bet preflop because if you have like KK preflop and bet, you can probably knock out someone with like A2, then if the flop comes A X X, youve increased your chance of taking the pot