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2nd August 2006, 1:01 AM
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Plays at: 911POKER.COM
Game: strip poker
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need help with pt stats usage?
http://www.bet-the-pot.com/poker-tra...t3-page37.html
this site has helped me immensely when it came to determining what stats to look at in real time.
tis long though
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Anatomy of a PokerTracker-Augmented Session
 by Excession
Pokertracker (especially with GT+ running in real time alongside ring play on multiple tables) gives you fantastic information on the players playing with you.
You can use GT+ to put up 'real time' stats on all the players on a table.
You select which PT stats you want - hovering over the stats gives the full list in any case. The stats can be dragged anywhere on your desktop.
By 'real time' I mean, at least on Ultimatebet and Party, stats updated every minute seamlessly.
As an aside, the default colors are green for a winning player and yellow for a losing one.
The stats I have up for each player are VP$IP%/PFR%/Post-flop aggression and WSDWSF% (went to showdown when saw flop).
It is a truism worth repeating that there are no loose or tight tables, just loose and tight players. If the one rock on a table full of maniacs raises UTG, you’d better notice he is a rock or it’s likely to be costly if you have a decent starting hand. In a Bricks and Mortar casino you will notice if one player out of ten is a rock.
But online, over the course of a couple of hours ring play at 3 full tables, you will see maybe 50-60 players come and go. If you notice anyone it will be the maniacs. You pretty unlikely to know if one player, who seems pretty quiet, is playing 24% of his hands and raising 8% pre-flop or seeing 12% and raising 2%.
PT will enable you at a glance to spot patterns of play amongst these players. You can see how useful that can be, most especially in late position. The biggest single winning change I have made to my play recently is standard raising from LP if I think I have the best hand – if the three limpers in front of you all raise the top 7% or more of their hands, the very fact that they have limped tells you that your ATo or KQs is likely to be good for a raise and a decent bet if checked to on the flop even if you miss.
But how often does it actually alter the decision that you would otherwise make?
I thought that some specifics would be helpful.
I’ll take a session I played this morning at Party by way of example. It was at a $25NL table (blinds 25c/50c) called 'Bikini Babes'. I played 90 hands over 112 minutes at this table. I was playing two other tables at the same time (on one of these I ended up $29 up, the other $18 down). On this particular table, because of the looseness of most of the players at the table to the right and the relative tightness of the 3 players to my left I did more raising and less folding with marginal hands from LP than would be usual for me. But I have used PT in the last week on other tables to lay down AKo OTB to a minimum raise for example, it’s just that there was no-one quite that rock-like around on this table..
I had observed all 3 tables for about 40 minutes before sitting down, so I had decent reads from the get go.
Hand 1. I buy in ($25 stack) one off the button. Get J8o. 6 see flop. $3 in pot. 874 rainbow. I have top pair, poor kicker. UTG pushes all-in with $15 stack. PT tells me he sees 60% of flops and is weak-tight thereafter (post-flop aggression 1.43 and goes to showdown when sees flop 14%) – I already can see he is a bad player and this all-in just confirms it. This doesn’t really matter much for now as I am folding anyway.
Hand 3 doesn’t involve me, but does see a BB bust out a QQ when he calls the $2 pre-flop raise with 92s and the flop comes 9 –junk-junk. The QQ player slowplays and bets out on the turn when another 9 falls. Ouch.
Hand 8. OTB with TT. I have $23 left. A bad LA-A (loose aggressive aggressive – vip 60%, 9% pre-flop raise) player is down to his last $10 in EP. He raises to $2. A new guy who has just bought in for 50c in EP for the huge sum of $8 (bad player sign x2) calls for $2. I cold call. SB, who is a bit weak-tight (TP-P – VP$IP 23%, PFR% 4%, post-flop aggression 1.1, goes to showdown when saw flop 15%) re-raises to $6. This means only one of two hands AA or KK. Any other holding here is just about inconceivable unless he is discounting the 2 calls as just folks seeing a maniac. The LA-A calls. The newbie folds. Round to me. Now I easily have implied odds for my set draw ($4 more to see and a likely eventual pot of about $50 if I hit) so I call. Flop is QQ5 (2 clubs).
SB checks. LA-A goes all-in (he was bound to he only has $3.58 left). Now PT is shouting at me that this guy is very solid and must have a monster pair (AA, KK, QQ or JJ all have me beat). He must have known that if he checked the LA-A would bet. However for such a small bet I couldn’t lay down here. I flat called ($3.58 into a $26 pot) hoping the SB would fold or I would hit one of the 2 tens left. This was a mistake of course. Of course SB calls it. Turn is 9c. SB checks. He is happy to make lay downs and passive post-flop yet has already called once and must have a high overpair. So either I bet enough to convince him I have a third Q (unlikely) or I just check it down. So I check. Ace falls on river. We check it down and he loses with his KK to AJo held by the LA-A. OK I lost $10 on this hand (of which I should have saved $3.58 if I had been more disciplined) but without the knowledge that the SB was tight and passive post-flop I might have been tempted to take a stab at it and really get burnt. Nevertheless I’d like to think that PT didn’t alter my play here.
Hand 9 I am one off the button, and get Ks Qs. There are 3 EP limpers. Now this is where PT really earns its money. I look at the VP$IP and PFR% stats next to each of the players (thanks GT+!). The LA-A raises 9% and plays 60% (so he is in with junk); the new player I have no read on except that he is bad and laid down to a re-raise last hand; the 3rd EP limper is 50% VP$IP and 12% PFR% (so he looks like he is limping with junk too). I check and the blinds are both tight players. I raise to $3 and they all fold. I pick up $2.25 thanks to PT’s ability to help me pick my spots. +$2.25 to PT.
Hand 10. My computer then crashes on my (annoying huh) and after a reboot my next hand is from the BB. Fortunately it is AKo. Two of the loose guys call again (from MP this time) and the SB. The Button is a rock (15% VP$IP but a PFR% of 7% so I’m happy that AKo is good – I put him on a medium/small pair probably). He also has a very unimpressive post-flop aggression of zero (yes zero) and a 'goes to showdown when saw flop' of a weak-tight 20%. The SB has a 25% VP$IP and a PFR% of 9%. Yet again I’m confident that I have the best hand pre-flop so it’s time to make the loose players play. I raise to $5 (I like a nice big raise to isolate if I do get called out of position. I am going to bet out the pot (or just under) irrespective of flop as 3/4 of the time it is going to be impossible for anyone but a dedicated calling station to call me down (the other 1/4 they hit and I don’t and I’ll just back out – the maths work out nicely over the long haul). The 50% VP$IP/12% PFR% guy calls my $5. The rest fold. I check his stats. He has an aggression factor of 2 so he will bet at me if I hit the flop and check to him. He also folds easily as his showdown WSF% is 17%. OK. Flop 6 4 2 rainbow. I bet $10 into $11.50 pot. He folds. Thank you PT. +$5.95
Hand 13. Three hands later I’m one off the button with Ac 7d. From LP this is more playable than people think but you have to be careful. It’s +.27BB/hand for me according to PT so I’ll keep playing it carefully. The blinds are tight. LA-A calls from EP (junk again). The guy immediately to my right also calls. Let’s check his stats. Hmm. Only 9 hands played and no read. If he had been loose I probably would have raised here. Tight I would have folded in an instant. As it is I limp and see a flop, The SB completes. Flop is A 5 3 (2 spades). Folded to guy to my right who bets $1 into $2.50 pot. Hmm. $2 and I am gone here but I wonder if he has a decent ace why such a small bet with the flush draw out there. Is he on a mini-steal or does he have his own flush draw?
I smooth call and the rest fold (probably could have re-raised for info but I like to keep things small and under control when I’ve no idea where I stand – the problem of trying to play weak aces of course). Turn Ad. OK so it’s less likely he has the last Ace. He bets $1 into a $4.50 pot. Looks like a blocking bet here for his flush draw and I should raise the pot but I just smooth call again. River 3c giving me full house aces over 3’s and getting me off the hook for my mistake. He checks. I bet $3 and he folds. I book a $3.70 win.
Hand 19. Six hands later I’m dealt KJo in the BB. The button (15% VP$IP 7%, PFR%, aggression zero!) and the guy to my right call. I raise to $2 figuring to isolate and bet out. Button calls. Flop
876 rainbow. I bet $4 into $4.50 pot. He folds. +$2.30
Hand 20. OK – on the next hand my aggression gets me into some trouble. A couple of the EP loose players have dropped and we are now six-handed. I look down at 99 on the Button. UTG limps. Folded to me. I raise to $2 OTB. Both BB and UTG call. BB is 27% VP$IP, 7% preflop raise and aggressive post-flop (2.8). UTG is new player. No read. Flop is 877 rainbow. OK an overpair (just). Checked to me. I bet $5 into $6.25 pot and get 2 callers! Oops. King falls next (completing rainbow) and we all check. Then Q falls on river and we all check again. BB has AKo, UT had TT. I double check this is a Party table -$7.00.
Hand 28. I’m in LP (one off button) with A6o. The blinds are tight and the 50% VP$IP/12% pfr player in MP limps. I raise to $2. Mr. 50% calls. Flop is 8 44 rainbow. He checks to me. I bet $4 into $4.50 pot and take it down. +$2.55
Hand 45 – nothing for 17 hands. By the end of this I get AJo in MP. I am some $5 up at this stage so far at the table. AJo is not a winning hand for me. I am trying to treat it like ATo as much as possible. I limp. The blinds complete. Everyone else folds. Flop is K95 (2 clubs). Checked to me. I check. Turn is 4d. Checked to me again. I bet $1 and take it down. +$1.
Hand 47 – J9o in the SB. 2 limpers. Hit JT4 rainbow flop. Bet out $2 into $2 pot. Took it down. +1.40
Hand 49 – AKo one-of the button. Guy immediately to my right is new player and buys in to hand. Two other limpers. Another new player in EP and the 50%/12% guy. I raise to $2. Mr 50% calls. Flop 984 rainbow. He checks. I bet $5 into $5.75 pot and take it down. +$3.50
Hand 50 – Ac Jc two off the button. Limpers are guy with 36% VP$IP/6% raise/passive post-flop (.63) and liable to fold (16% go to showdown when saw flop) and my friend Mr 50%. So I raise to $2. Mr 50% (who hasn’t got the hang of this experiential learning thing yet) calls me pre-flop again. Flop is 233 (2 spades). He checks. I bet $4 into $5.50 pot and he folds. +$3
Hand 51 – 2c 4c. Folded to me. I call (not clever). Borderline Tight Aggressive player (VP$IP 22%/PFR% 8%/agg 1.6/WSD%WSF 26%) min raises. Blinds also complete. I smell a monster from TA but with 4 players in I call anyway for 50c.
Flop 7c 3c 2h (hmm if someone slowplays this they could go away very unhappy). The SB bets out $2 into $4 pot. I check his stats although he is fairly new. 50% VP$IP/12% PFR%/aggression of 2 (quite aggressive)/WSD%WSF 29% (he likes to call folks down). I am a bit worried that this is a blocking bet for a better flush draw but call and see what will happen. The TA raises to $4 (awful – confirms she has overpair but gives me perfect odds for flush draw). We both call her. Turn is ace. I guess we now get to see if her monster pair is AA or not. Check. Check. She bets $4 into $16 pot. SB folds. My odds are great. I call. River 7d. (that’s her boat if he has AA). I check. She bets $8. I fold. She shows AA for boat. I lose $9 but am not so upset. If she isn’t going to protect her monsters and telegraphs them like that I will catch her out eventually.
Hand 65. I have ATo in the BB. I get 2 EP limpers and SB competes. PT tells me that they all raise 8%+ pre-flop so I figure I am best and raise it up to $3. They all fold. +$1.50.
Hand 70. ATo in MP. UTG calls (he is fairly loose). I call. One caller behind. Blinds complete. Flop J93 rainbow. Checked around by all 6 players. River T (puts flush draw up). I bet $1 into $3 pot (weak bet - should have been 2 for sure but I don’t much like the board.) My old friend Mr 50% (the BB) calls. River is 8 (no flush). Mr. 50% checks it down and so do I. He has T7o and has caught his inside str8 and takes it down. After donating for me hand after hand he must have been annoyed when I just checked him down rather than betting at the end. Lost $1.50
Hand 71. I get QQ in EP. UTG limps. I raise it up to $3. They all fold. +$1.25.
Hand 73. I am still $4 up overall at this table but haven’t really caught any hands. I have stayed up by using PT to pick my spots to be aggressive with marginal hands. But the play at the table has been so poor and I feel so comfortable with my PT reads that I have been happy to hang around. Now I get rewarded. 88 UTG. I raise to $2. I sometimes do this with medium pairs when mixing up my play, especially on maniac-free tables where a re-raise all-in is unlikely. If you get a couple of early callers everyone can pile in to a huge pot or if you don’t you can end up isolating.
This time the first happens. I get 6 callers. That’s seven of us seeing a $14.25 flop. And it’s K84 (with 2 spades). I have middle set. With the spades there and so many callers I am not going to mess around. I push all in and get a caller (the SB from hand 51). The poor guy had pocket 44’s and hit his bottom set. Mine hold up and I win +$36.15. PT had very little to do with this except that without its ability to pick off weak-tight players with pre-flop raises I wouldn’t have made hand 73 at all…
Hand 89. The next and last hand played by me in this session (other than blinds for free) was this one. K9o OTB (again a hand that is +EV for me if played carefully - +.38BB/hand average). Three limpers to me (one the LA-A SB from hand 51, the other 2 new players – no reads). I just limp and blinds complete. Flop T92 rainbow. OK, I have middle pair, decent kicker. Checked to me so I bet $2 into $3 pot. LA-A calls. Rest fold. Another 10 (rainbow). He checks. I take a look at his post-flops stats. With 1.6 aggression I would expect a bet- is he trapping or worried I have a T – I just check (motto – if you don’t know where you are keep a lid on the pot’s escalation). River is junk 4. He bets $3 into $7 pot. Hmm..I check his stats again…do I think he has a T? Answer – no. Does he have an overpair? – no – he raises too many hands pre-flop to have a big overpair. Ok then – maybe a smaller pair or something like AQ or AJ (so long as it’s not A9). Those are at least as likely as the others. OK then it’s a crying call. And he has AQo and my call is good. +$6.85
After the rake (of $5.50) I am $35.57 up over the 90 hands for a BB/100 of 37.4. Not bad (and of course 90 hands closer to my Party $200 Xmas bonus).
I hope the above is useful for you. |
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