| This is a discussion on Moving up to $25NL within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; Hey - I'm moving up again - have gone through $10NL and and am now rolled for $25NL. Any advice about this level from anyone ... |
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| Moving up to $25NL Hey - I'm moving up again - have gone through $10NL and and am now rolled for $25NL. Any advice about this level from anyone currently playing here greatly appreciated! This FR btw. |
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2nl is easier obviously but I don't think 25 is to much more difficult. If you think you can beat 25nl and are a competent and HAVE the BR then go for it. Obviously if you're new to the game then start at 2nl, as you will only be throwing your money away quicker and a lot higher at 25nl. |
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| IMO there's not that much difference between 2NL and 5NL so starting at 5NL is what I'd recommend - if you haven't played much online before I'd definitley recommend starting at 5 to 10NL even if it's only for a few weeks to get some experience, however good you think you are |
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I know a lot of that was off topic, so congrats on moving up pokerman, none of the above was directed at your move-up. Good luck at 25NL! |
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1) Because I only deposited $10! 2) because as absoluthamm says my mistakes were cheap (and very, very frequent) There isn't much difference between the two, but as stated, be honest with yourself and admit you can't beat a level (like I did here: Volunteers Required) and be prepared to learn. I'm by no means a great player (far from it) but I have studied like a demon, hassled the hell out of people here, posted hands, commented on hands and generally just been prepared to learn and listen. Thanks for the congrats absoluthamm. |
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| Thats great man, I would say that in general people stack off less, so you have to find edges in other ways then just getting stacks in (im sure you already do) people are generally 3betting wider as well, the average i see is about 7-9, so you will have to figure out how to cope with that.. GL man |
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| congrats on moving up to $25nl!!! i'm currently playing at $10 nl and was wondering what did you build your bankroll up to before transitioning to $25nl. also, were you multi-tabling? and any other random bits of information that you can think of would be greatly appreciated. thanks! |
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I multitable. I have played as many as 12 but have found my sweet spot is around 6 tables so rarely play more than that - sometimes 9. What level are you at? More than happy to help you in anyway that I can. I wouldn't be here now were not for the help of this forum so happy to give back. |
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| Just read your other two threads. Can't believe you've gone from 2NL to 25NL so quick! Good job. What would you say the main way you've improved your game is? Books, HH analysis or something else? Also, I suggest as a momento you re-watch your 2NL video back and see how far you've come |
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i'm currently at $10nl. sometimes i would try $25nl but would more often than not end up a losing player. i'm slowly but steadily building up my bankroll. i can manage playing 3 tables at the moment and sometimes struggle if i move up to 4 tables. did you ever play tables with antes and 250 big blind max buy-in or just stick to the normal 100 big blind max buy-in? finally, when you moved up to $25nl, did you reduce the amount of tables or stuck with 6? sorry if there's too many questions! thanks! |
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| although i'm from london, i'm currently in the U.S so i can't play until i get back into the U.K (3 days) so i'm afraid i wouldn't be able to tell you! i'm itching to get back at the tables though. do you mean worse as in harder to make money because 15% VPIP isn't too out of the ordinary in my opinion. correct me if i'm wrong though, not 100% on that statement but if the average stack is 6 dollars then it does tend to indicate a high amount of donks out there. |
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| Erm sorry i meant 15% of players seeing the flop, i think this is pretty low, certainly could get on looser tables before the shutdown. I dunno i just notice a hell of a lot more short stacks and theyre often the tight/nitty ones playing 12+ tables, I'll see how this month goes but peak times used to have a lot more juicy tables but now everything a bit meh. This is full ring tables im talking about, dunno how 6max has been affected |
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| congratulations on moving up, i currently play $25 rush and standard cash. i really dont think there is all that much difference between $10 and $25, a few less nutters, but the skill level is not a huge difference, just make sure your fully rolled for it so as not to be playing with scared money good luck at the tables oh and hello all, my first post |
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| Hey OP, just found this thread and curious how things are going. I took a shot at 25nl on the first of May with a $600 roll, coinciding with my decision to try to clear as much of my $300 added bonus as possible. I put a stop loss at 8 buyins, so if my roll went down to $400 I would have to drop back down to 10nl. I figured with effective 40% rakeback or so it would probably be a good time to attempt such a shot. Things went decently well, from an EV perspective. In about 15,000 hands with the bonus, I estimated my street for street EV was about 8-10 buyins up. As for actual results, I had to drop back to 10nl when my bankroll went down to $400 due to an unbelievable string of suckouts, coolers, and monsters going unpaid. It was by far the worst downswing I've suffered in over 200,000 hands, and the timing for it was just terrible. I was mostly playing 6-max Rush, I'm not sure what your favored game is. At 6-max Rush, I would echo what was said before -- generally people don't spew stacks as easily as at 10nl and the 3bet aggression is perhaps slightly higher on average. There's also more SPR planning going on, and people tend to be more aware of different betting lines. Care to share your experiences? I'm currently rebuilding my roll and may take another stab before my bonus period runs out if I can get my roll to at least $500 with another stop loss at $400. |
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| Sorry for the delay in replying everyone. Quote:
The hand analysis thread on here is priceless too. Get stuck in and articulate your thoughts. Don't read the whole thread until you have analysed the hand and have decided exactly what you would do in that spot and why and then post your thoughts. It's all too easy to read a HA thread and think you understand it when you are just reading someone's particular angle. This is true of books too. I did have coaching at $10NL as well which seriously overhauled my game. Quote:
Let me know how you're getting on. |
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| re: Moving up to $25NL poker Wow, I just read through the other thread -- I'm glad you are OK and I'm sorry you had to endure something like that. I've been strong-arm robbed before as well, group of four large 18 yr old kids came up from behind and tried to knock me out with punches to the head. I'm a pretty sturdy guy and used to play American football, so didn't really get affected by the physicality of it and I only lost about $25 or so, but the psychological aspect took a while to get over. I wish you the best and a speedy recovery from both the physical and mental/emotional damage. Back on poker, recently I've run into a lot of poor play at 25nl 6-max rush which has made me think the level really isn't that much more difficult to beat than 10nl. I do agree the edges are smaller though, and I think there are probably about half the amount of spewy players at 25nl vs 10nl, but it's still not too hard to beat with a mostly similar playing style I had been utilizing at 10nl. I was able to get my roll back up to $560 from $400, which allowed me to take another crack at 25nl with another 3 days left on my added bonus. The poker gods did not smile upon me. I continue to consistently have my 70%+ hands cracked and ran into set over set twice, and the last two sessions brought me back down to $475 or so despite playing excellent poker. I think I will continue with 25nl for a little bit with a stop loss drop down to 10nl at $425. I need just 200 or so FTP to have cleared $200 of my added bonus and that would give me an additional $20 ring game ticket. Once the $200 bonus is cleared, I will likely stay stay at 10nl until I hit $750 to take another shot at 25nl so I can be more properly rolled as I won't have 50% rakeback to fall back on. Reviewing my sessions, I feel pretty positive about my game even though I'm getting smacked down in the monetary results. Just gotta keep that chin up and look for ways to increase my edge even more to help with these inevitable periods of negative variance. There's nothing I can do about constantly losing to two-outters, but what I CAN do is improve my game to make it sting a little less. Last edited by mrmonkey : 19th May 2011 at 2:11 AM. |
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