| This is a discussion on --micromachine's beginner cash game thread-- within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; Hi everyone Having blown half my bankroll playing 5NL 6max on Stars, I'm going to play 2NL 6max to build my bankroll and confidence back ... |
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| --micromachine's beginner cash game thread-- Hi everyone Having blown half my bankroll playing 5NL 6max on Stars, I'm going to play 2NL 6max to build my bankroll and confidence back up before trying 5NL again. I will put some graphs and hands into this thread. Hopefully I will learn a lot (and maybe some others will too) and it will encourage me to play my best and stop tilting and playing like a reckless -ass.This is the situation: -Bankroll is now $102. -About to get $100 in bonuses. -Start with 2NL 6max then move onto 5NL 6max when I am beating 2NL. -Dabble in 10NL when bankroll exceeds $250, dropping down if necessary. Here is my 2NL graph so far: |
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| I used to play at PKR but mostly tourneys cos they charge 10% rake at 4NL and 10NL and I didn't have any rakeback. I had a few nice MTT wins then proceed to lose most of it playing 25nl like a donkey lol. I really like the pokerstars VIP system, and with the welcome bonus my RB percentage is probably pretty high at the mo |
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| Will try and make a vid soon jbbb. I'm looking for a free screen recorder for Mac. How many tables can you show clearly at once? Just one I suppose? Edit: It looks like I can use quicktime, will try later. Can you hide your screenname? Last edited by micromachine : 25th August 2011 at 1:13 PM. |
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You can probably play 4 tables max if the quality is good. Cafeman used to post vids with 4 tables they were very good to watch. You can't hide your SN AFAIK. |
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Yeah pokerstars VIP system looks awesome but the cash equivalent below platty is pretty rubbish compared to other euro sites but GL. join the skype group if you fancy chatting |
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| Subscribed. Good luck OP. Judging from some of your other posts you seem to have a good grasp of the right questions to ask and a real desire to improve. I look forward to reading your thread. These types of threads make for some of the best content on CC. |
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| still going too far with TPTK Right, from now on I wont call any reraises with my TPTK type hands unless I have a read...I think I haven't given players enough credit at 2NL. Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (5 players) Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com SB Hero: $2.16 BB: $10.46 UTG: $0.84 CO: $2.48 BTN: $5.09 Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB and dealt ![]() UTG calls $0.02, CO raises to $0.10, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.09, UTG folds Flop: ($0.24) (2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14 Turn: ($0.52) (2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $0.28, Hero calls $0.28 River: ($1.08) (2 players)Hero bets $0.51, CO raises to $1.96 (All-in), Hero calls $1.13 (All-in), CO returned $0.32 Final Pot: $4.36 Showdown: CO shows (a full house, jacks full of threes)Hero shows (two pair, jacks and threes)Outcome: CO wins $4.15 Doing OK still at 2NL bit swingy though, here is the graph: |
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| re: --micromachine's beginner cash game thread-- poker Quote:
Thanks. I read websites and forums and have read a couple of the Harrington books (the tournament ones). Other than that I review my hands and think about how I could have played losing hands better or how I could have won more in hands I won. |
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3bet or folding will fold out all his weaker Ax hands and get called or 4bet by better. Id 3bet if you know he calls wider or 4bets wider |
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FWIW my thinking is that if he is opening wide from the CO for stealing purposes than we will get enough folds to the 3 bet to make it profitable. Also, with it being 2NlL I can see us getting called by a lot of smaller pairs that our overcards have outs to. Mainly I guess I'm making assumptions on his CO range and how often he folds to 3 bets that I shouldn't be making. |
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As for his 3 bet calling / 4- bet range, I had no idea. Having only played a few thousand hands at 2NL most villains are strangers. In future hands I post I will try to include some villain info if I have any |
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| re: --micromachine's beginner cash game thread-- poker Should I have shoved the flop? Or is a reraise better? And how much would you reraise to? I thought one of them had AK or AQ by this point and my hand felt so strong I decided to slowplay and extract more value from it. Maybe not such a good idea with 2 others in the hand still. Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (6 players) Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com SB: $8.41 BB: $0.60 UTG: $1.59 MP: $2.03 CO: $1.34 BTN Hero: $1.95 Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN and dealt ![]() 2 folds, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.07, BB folds, CO calls $0.06 Flop: ($0.26) (3 players)SB bets $0.18, CO calls $0.18, Hero calls $0.18 Turn: ($0.80) (3 players)SB bets $0.40, CO raises to $1.08 (All-in), Hero raises to $1.69 (All-in), SB calls $1.29 River: ($5.26) (3 players)Final Pot: $5.26 Showdown: SB shows (a straight, Ten to Ace)Hero shows (a set of jacks)CO shows (a straight, Ten to Ace)Outcome: SB wins $1.16 Outcome: SB wins $1.92 Outcome: CO wins $1.92 |
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| JTo FTW! These two hands occurred one after the other, against the same villain. The first hand made me think he was weak and aggressive so in the second hand I shoved over his flop bet with my top pair hand. In this case I was correct but I wondered after whether the play was actually a bit reckless since I knew basically nothing about him (had played 10 hands against) and based my play entirely on the previous hand. What do you think? I was lucky this time but I think I tend to form impressions about other players too quickly and then they take me by surprise. So how many hands do you think you need on a player to have any kind of read? Is 50 enough? Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (5 players) Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com SB: $1.95 BB Hero: $1.66 UTG: $5.72 CO: $2 BTN: $0.72 Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB and dealt ![]() 3 folds, SB raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.06 Flop: ($0.16) (2 players)SB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20 Turn: ($0.56) (2 players)SB bets $0.22, Hero calls $0.22 River: ($1) (2 players)SB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30 Final Pot: $1.60 Showdown: SB shows (a pair of threes)Hero shows (a pair of tens)Outcome: Hero wins $1.53 Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (4 players) Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com SB Hero: $2.39 BB: $5.72 UTG: $2 BTN: $1.15 Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB and dealt ![]() UTG raises to $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.05, BB calls $0.04 Flop: ($0.24) (4 players)Hero bets $0.17, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.56, Hero raises to $1.91, BTN calls $0.53 (All-in), Hero returned $0.82 Turn: ($2.42) (2 players)River: ($2.42) (2 players)Final Pot: $2.42 Showdown: Hero shows (a pair of tens)Outcome: Hero wins $2.30 |
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Both of these hands are folds preflop in the blinds without a good read on villain imo. |
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| hand 1 - raise flop hand 2 - call and note he overbets bottom pair then bets like 1/2 pot with hands with poor SD value hand 3 - if you think he was weak flat to keep his bluffs in, hes basically committed so just call it off on the turn. |
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| A few interesting hands Hi there, Had a few interesting hands last night that I marked for review, any comments on my play are appreciated. Hand1-Should I have folded that set? Hand2-Good call by me? Or dangerous? Hand3-Don't really need comments here lol Hand4-Should I have bet more one the river? Thx Hand 1) Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (6 players) Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com SB Hero: $3.05 BB: $1.93 UTG: $3.48 MP: $2.08 CO: $2.10 BTN: $1.72 Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB and dealt ![]() 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BB calls $0.04 Flop: ($0.12) (2 players)Hero bets $0.09, BB calls $0.09 Turn: ($0.30) (2 players)Hero bets $0.21, BB raises to $0.42, Hero calls $0.21 River: ($1.14) (2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $1.02, Hero folds, BB returned $1.02 Final Pot: $1.14 Showdown: BTN mucks his hand Outcome: BB wins $1.09 Hand 2) Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (5 players) Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com SB Hero: $1.94 BB: $2.42 UTG: $5.45 CO: $2 BTN: $3.72 Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB and dealt ![]() 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.09, Hero calls $0.08, BB folds Flop: ($0.20) (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $0.18, Hero calls $0.18 Turn: ($0.56) (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $3.45 (All-in), Hero calls $1.67 (All-in), BTN returned $1.78 River: ($3.90) (2 players)Final Pot: $3.90 Showdown: Hero shows (two pair, aces and threes)Outcome: Hero wins $3.71 Hand 3) Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (6 players) Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com SB: $2.03 BB Hero: $1.98 UTG: $6.78 MP: $3.30 CO: $7.44 BTN: $6.87 Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB and dealt ![]() UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.06, SB folds, Hero calls $0.04, UTG calls $0.04 Flop: ($0.19) (3 players)Hero bets $0.10, UTG calls $0.10, BTN folds Turn: ($0.39) (2 players)Hero bets $0.20, UTG calls $0.20 River: ($0.79) (2 players)Hero bets $1.62 (All-in), UTG calls $1.62 Final Pot: $4.03 Showdown: Hero shows (a full house, tens full of queens)UTG shows (two pair, queens and sixes)Outcome: Hero wins $3.83 Hand 4) Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (6 players) Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com SB: $1.75 BB: $2.66 UTG: $2.33 MP: $2.14 CO: $0.27 BTN Hero: $2.19 Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN and dealt ![]() 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, SB folds, BB calls $0.04 Flop: ($0.13) (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.09, BB calls $0.09 Turn: ($0.31) (2 players)BB checks, Hero checks River: ($0.31) (2 players)BB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.45 Final Pot: $1.81 Showdown: Hero shows (a straight, Ten to Ace)Outcome: Hero wins $1.72 |
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| Hnad 1. Never folding here. I'd 3bet/shove the turn cause we get a lot of calls from 2 pair hands and combo draws like pair + FD hands or pair + straight/FD. Hand 2. 3 bet preflop. /hand Hand 3. Lol. Id bet more on the flop though since board is so wet. Like .16-.19 or something. Hnad 4. Nh. Nitpicking... I'd always raise at least 4-5x with value hands at nl2 since people generaly dont fold much and we dominate a lot of hands that will be calling from the blinds. |
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| Hand 1 - If we say he has a completed flush 100% of the time we have 10 outs to boat up which we need 3.6/1 and he is giving us 5.43/1 so flat and boat up ftw! Fine as played Hand 2 - 3bet pre, what was your plan for calling flop ? Hand 3 - donk bigger like .14 or .15, nit picking but more value as he will still peel naked diamond hands. and wtf at outcome lol Hand 4 - No its thin enough |
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3b jamming turn is an absolute spew |
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- For hand 1, I see that flat calling in hope of making full house is a good play, and it is basically what I did. I didn't quite get where the 5.43/1 odds come from though? I can't see any point in the hand where my odds are that good. - For hand 2, I agree a 3-bet preflop would have been good here. My thinking for calling his flop bet was basically to float - quite often they give up and check the turn, I make a 1/2 pot bluff bet and they fold. I think it works especially well here as my hand is strong and could still make a nh on the turn or river. In the end he just had 52o lol, maybe he was trying to use the ace as a scare card? Last edited by micromachine : 2nd September 2011 at 11:13 AM. |
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| re: --micromachine's beginner cash game thread-- poker subscribin, good luck MM, im doing the same as you, having come from a mtt/sng background. KD's cash thread, gonna run up thru the levels! |
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