Gonna try this and see what happens.
A few of us have our own cash threads, updating every day or so, so I thought why not get all of us in one thread, where we update, discuss hands, and offer/ask for opinions on cash game problems.
Everyone is welcome, whether you're 2nl one tabling, or 25nl multi-tabling, we're particularly interested in new people to either CC, or cash in general(like me!)
At the start of each month i ask that you post previous months graph if you have one, your current BR(if you wish to), and your goals for this month.
If you have your own cash thread feel free to link it to here, as this can just be updated by you when you like, whereas most of us update our own threads every session we play.
If you're new to CC or this thread can I also ask you to post why you're in this thread.
(And dont worry if you dont know all the poker lingo/terms, the easier for everyone to understand the better!)
OK, I'll start:

My total online BR as of 2 Oct 2011 was $542.25 (http://kerouacsdogblog.blogspot.com/).
My BR for playing cash as of now: 159.25 euros($214)
Currently playing 4nl, and taking shots at 10nl, 2-4 tables at Unibet.


Will find my graph later. Just joined unibet 2 days ago, so finding my way around at 4nl, before jumping into taking shots at 10nl. Will give it a week, see what rb i get(also have a nice bonus there, see how that goes), If I dont like the site Im moving $200 to PS and grinding 5nl and shot-taking 10nl there.


oh, my cash thread: KD's cash thread, gonna run up thru the levels!

Goals:1. find a site and stick with it. trying unibet for a week, if its crap etc, gonna move permantly to PokerStars and grind $220 there, at 10nl
2. Get some volume in this month, hopefull at the very least an hour a day
3. reread harington on cash volume one
4.get to 10nl permantly by end of month, and collect all my br from all sites and be rolled for 25nl hopefully

in before get locked

lol

i get back.

Ok I'm in a moving from my journal to here. Hope we can get a lot of micro diary writting guys here. I'll be back with my intro thread.

Originally Posted by KerouacsDog

Goals:1. find a site and stick with ityes. trying unibet for a week, if its crap etc, gonna move permantly to PokerStars yesand grind $220 there, at 10nlprob at the bottom of BRM scale but i'm cool with it
2. Get some volume in this month, hopefull at the very least an hour a day
3. reread harington on cash volume oneH on cash game vol.1&2 is def not for micro online play.To be honest i wouldn't waste my time rereading it.
4.get to 10nl permantly by end of month, and collect all my br from all sites and be rolled for 25nl hopefullybig goal i would set one like play 10,000+ hands and have 3bb+per 100.Just a better goal imo.

Over all i like the idea of combining all of your idea's, goals etc. in one thread.

cool guys, you dont have to do the intro, its up to you, just for the first one it would be nice if we all intro'd ourselves and say what we're about. post whatever you wish to.

oh, my br page didnt work, this might:
http://kerouacsdogblog.blogspot.com/

I'm in

I think it's a good idea for discussing hands and progress etc instead of us all having our own separate micro cash-game threads.

My bankroll: $234
Goals for month: win a good few buy-ins at the 5NL 6max tables

Quote:
Originally Posted by KerouacsDog
Goals:1. find a site and stick with ityes. trying unibet for a week, if its crap etc, gonna move permantly to PokerStars yesand grind $220 there, at 10nlprob at the bottom of BRM scale but i'm cool with it I normally do 20 times current level and one buy-in for next b4 taking a one table shot at the next level
2. Get some volume in this month, hopefull at the very least an hour a day
3. reread harington on cash volume oneH on cash game vol.1&2 is def not for micro online play.To be honest i wouldn't waste my time rereading it.really?, it taught me a lot. reccommend a book?
4.get to 10nl permantly by end of month, and collect all my br from all sites and be rolled for 25nl hopefullybig goal i would set one like play 10,000+ hands and have 3bb+per 100.Just a better goal imo.what i meant is, across all my accounts I have $542, I just need to get it all into one account. I played 50nl at UB a few mins ago, when I only have $120 there, but Ive played 50nl before and higher, so Im not scared by the prospect. I was rolled for 50nl at one time but needed money for real-life, but saying that Im happy as larry playing 2nl or whatever as long as its poker!
Over all i like the idea of combining all of your idea's, goals etc. in one thread. yeah lets hope it works out ok

this new site Im at has mainly only 6max tables at 4nl/10nl. what PFR/VPIP should I be looking to reach?

H on cash games is focused on high limit deep stack live cash games.I didn't find to much helpfu informationl in the book.I could be wrong though.I would start by reading an rereading one of the COTW threads and trying one concept out for a week or so then trying another and so on.
6max 24\22 is solid over all

They say the ideal for 6max is something like 22/17 (VPIP/PFR) but you can be successful playing both tighter or looser than that. Depends if you have a nitty style or a looser style...I am 20/13 over my last 6K hands at 5NL but I know that I need to try to get my VPIP and PFR a bit closer together.

thanks guys, yeah I can play loose or tight, depending on table. will post a session later trying between 20/13 and 24/22

September graph shows my first "OMG I HAZ SKILLZ!" month and October is showing it was not just a heater.

My BR is currently at ~110$. I have no objectives for October (personal life a bit messed up) but keep playing and tunning my game. I want to be more selectively aggressive with regs since I'm not sorting those right now, just fish.

There's one 'if' that I plan: If I get a BR of $140 I'll start opening 5NL tables but I'll only move definetelly when my personal stuff is sorted and I can concentrate and, more important, review properly.

I'll post here when there's something relevant and naturally discuss other players posts. Good initiative KD!

Originally Posted by KerouacsDog

this new site Im at has mainly only 6max tables at 4nl/10nl. what PFR/VPIP should I be looking to reach?

Dont try and reach anything, take advantage of spots when you can, give up when you think its better, fold pre when you think it's going to get you into trouble not to, basically dont worry if you're a 18/15 or 27/23, Just use the numbers as a pointer so if you see something like 20/11, you might realise you're too passive.

Originally Posted by micromachine

They say the ideal for 6max is something like 22/17 (VPIP/PFR) but you can be successful playing both tighter or looser than that. Depends if you have a nitty style or a looser style...I am 20/13 over my last 6K hands at 5NL but I know that I need to try to get my VPIP and PFR a bit closer together.

Why exactly? Does making your stats closer make you a better player?

Here's how I see it: let's say that for a month I would sit in tables full of nits. My stats would be something like 50/35 cbet 100% and probably be stealing blinds from UTG. BB/100 would be low but I can't see how I could loose in the long run. Would that mean I was a worse player than a 20/17 that is 20/17 just because he plays the same (and often too bluffy) way?

I think we are all obsessed with stats. The thread about coloring players according to stats proves that point. There are so many 20/17 at micros that are awful players.

Originally Posted by acky100

Dont try and reach anything, take advantage of spots when you can, give up when you think its better, fold pre when you think it's going to get you into trouble not to, basically dont worry if you're a 18/15 or 27/23, Just use the numbers as a pointer so if you see something like 20/11, you might realise you're too passive.

I wouldn't look for a session of a certain stat line either.Over a lot of hands though i think it's good to be shooting for a certain stat range.I mean if you just keep playing like you play and don't try to adjust it's just bad.So if for 2 weeks your playing 20\11 or 30\19 you should try to adjust imo.

Originally Posted by acky100

Dont try and reach anything, take advantage of spots when you can, give up when you think its better, fold pre when you think it's going to get you into trouble not to, basically dont worry if you're a 18/15 or 27/23, Just use the numbers as a pointer so if you see something like 20/11, you might realise you're too passive.

ok, thanks acky. Ive never bothered about my stats too much, but then i read 'oh you should be this, and you should be that' but my game depends on how I feel when I sit at a table, do i wanna play loose and more hands, or do I wanna tighten up and play premium. these factors depend largely on how the table is playing, ie if its tight i loosen up more, if its loose I play premium.

Yeah joe thats what im trying to say, it doesn't matter if you're nitty (being a nit isn't a bad thing) or very TAG, just play the tables. Some tables im happy to be a 20/5, 30/25, 7/7 etc, but after a couple of k hands i might be a bit worried if im coming out as 20/11 or 30/19.

edit: Yeah KD that's how you should think about it!

I don't see a major problem with this thread, please keep it to strat only, for low content use this ***OMG October Cash Game Chat Thread***

Originally Posted by RVladimiro

I think we are all obsessed with stats. The thread about coloring players according to stats proves that point. There are so many 20/17 at micros that are awful players.

I agree you can have awful 20/17 players but I still think colour coding is great for identifying people who are like 75/5, because they are obviously massive donks and I want to be able to see that in the lobby and sit at those tables!! I wouldn't choose to sit on a table full of nits either, again, colour coding is useful. Why would you want to spend the whole time stealing adn achieving a low BB/100?

Originally Posted by tenbob

I don't see a major problem with this thread, please keep it to strat only, for low content use this ***OMG October Cash Game Chat Thread***

thanks tb, i wondered who changed the title.


do you see any problems with this thread, not just major?(seriously)

Originally Posted by micromachine

I agree you can have awful 20/17 players but I still think colour coding is great for identifying people who are like 75/5, because they are obviously massive donks and I want to be able to see that in the lobby and sit at those tables!! I wouldn't choose to sit on a table full of nits either, again, colour coding is useful. Why would you want to spend the whole time stealing adn achieving a low BB/100?

do you see enough colour-coded players that when you check any table you'll find a few you like/dislike? what Im saying is that pokerstars have so many players online, is it worth colour-coding them ie do you run into those same players often???? thats kinda what partly puts me off PS. I like to play a site where I regularly meet the same fish and avoid the same sharks.

Good luck, Mark. I will be gone till Sunday and have a good look then. I am interested in this.

thanks fletch! its not my thread, I just started it this month.................

just before I go to bed, my graphs for last month, the first is with stanjames, an english site, plus $8 rakeback.
the 2nd is with UB, I had $8 there, so have ran it up to $120, and now have found a way of getting it out, but I like it there, theres only 20 or so sharks, and about 200 fishes, so I have good notes on virtually every player, thats why the stats are so good: 36.64bb/100 playing a 25/6 style mainly 9max

Originally Posted by micromachine

I agree you can have awful 20/17 players but I still think colour coding is great for identifying people who are like 75/5, because they are obviously massive donks and I want to be able to see that in the lobby and sit at those tables!! I wouldn't choose to sit on a table full of nits either, again, colour coding is useful. Why would you want to spend the whole time stealing adn achieving a low BB/100?

Seating on tables full of nits is just an example. I just want to point out that stats are just judging the book by its cover regarding other players and that I think it's bad to play to reach certain stats as a goal regarding ourselves.

Let me try to say it in another way: don't change the way you play because of stats, let stats show you how you are playing and where you can improve.

cant sleep, trying a 2table session at Pokerstars right now, 2nl just to try it out. name's Kerouacs dog there(with the space)


*please run good*

early hand, no stats, turn bet was crap, right?

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1472257
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $1.44
BB: $2.38
UTG: $1.00
UTG+1: $2.58
MP: $0.50
CO: $1.78
Hero (BTN): $2.05

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with 6c 6s
3 folds, CO calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: ($0.07) Kc Tc 6h (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.06, BB folds, CO calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.19) 3d (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.12, CO calls $0.12

River: ($0.43) Qs (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30

villain was 40/5 for 27 hands:

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1472268
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $2.00
BTN: $0.91
SB: $0.38
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.26
UTG+1: $1.65
Hero (MP): $2.06

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with As Ad
UTG raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.19, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.62) 4s Ks Qc (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.16, Hero raises to $0.72, SB folds, UTG raises to $1.06 all in, Hero calls $0.34

Turn: ($2.74) Jc (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($2.74) 3c (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $2.74
UTG shows 9d Qd (a pair of Queens)
Hero shows As Ad (a pair of Aces)
Hero wins $2.61
(Rake: $0.13)

Originally Posted by KerouacsDog

do you see enough colour-coded players that when you check any table you'll find a few you like/dislike?

Well, I've only just started colour coding them so, no, not yet. But hopefully in the future. Mostly when I join a table there are 1 or 2 players I have 50+ hands on, so if I colour code all those then it is def useful. And I will be able to colour more players as I go along. I think its gonna be useful mostly for identifying the really fishy players (dark green with my system) from the lobby and trying to sit at those tables.

Originally Posted by KerouacsDog

early hand, no stats, turn bet was crap, right?

I would have raised 4XBB with 66 on the button (not sure if this is always correct strategy for FR but here you have only 7 players so is like 6max anyway), that way your subsequent 3/4 pot bets are going to build a much larger pot. As played, you could have maybe tried to get a bit more on the river with a pot sized bet.

why didnt you raise 66 on the btn? regardless of 6max or FR we're on the button and limping is bad here unless you have a good reason too. Turn bet isn't exactly crap, its definitely a bet but just bet bigger. See if we raised 4x +1 per limper pf we could pot pot shove and have stacks in situations like this, as people are not gonna fold tptk and stuff.

We raise 66 on the button with one limper for the following reason.

We isolate the fish and get HU in posn with a pair. He folds the best hand a ton when he flops something like bottom pair and we c-bet, we get stacks in easier when we flop a set and he hits top pair, we don't need to improve all that often when we are heads up.

We limp with 66 on the button rarely enough, but when several fish limp in then limping along is fine when we know that most of them will call a raise and we need to improve.

second hand u posted is a standard example of donkey play what a donk calling your 3 bet with Q9s lol

might I suggest that if we are posting some hands here then we can give them a name so we don't get confused about which one we are talking about? and maybe try not to make them too frequent (use HH analysis forum for some of them) otherwise it will be confusing even if they are named.