Low suited ... what do I do?

I never know when to call or fold them
by low i mean 8 and under, sometimes 9
sometimes a stick with them to the end when i find i have a flush
but another guy beats me with a higher suited
and other times i find that noone has anything close to a flush, and i could
have won a big pot
Is there a general rule about this or what?

Low suited cards are really only good for positional play. As positional bluffs you can make them valuable.

Only play the in late position.

Fold if you don't get a stright draw or flush draw on the flush.

Only play 45s and above (so you can get most types of strights, eg. A2345. If you played 23s you could'n get you'r 23s as top cards in the stright, and you therefore would have less oppurtunities to hit your stright).

Bet or call, but be carefull if someone raise you.

Always calculate potodds!

i never fold, unless i can only make it for one hand

if you have 7, 2 unsuited you never know if a pair of sevens and a two could come up, then you just screwed yourself over lol

Douglar didnt you say you placed third in a 10 dollar tourney of over 300 people? Are we talking a different game here or something?

Douglar,
This sounds like you subscribe to the "any two cards can win" theory. While it is true that "you never know" what will turn up on the flop, the turn or the river... the ODDS of your needed cards showing up are very, very low! You'll end up losing more money in the long run than you will ever win.

I used to play like that as well, and chased cards all the way to the river... but then I started tracking those kinds of hands and boy! was I shocked! Yes, it bugs me when I have folded low unsuited cards and sure enough, a winning hand could have been mine, but that happens too rarely. But, what makes me feel even worse and will put me on tilt, is losing good money on hands that just don't materialize. And low unsuited hands lose more often than they win. In my experience, anyway.

May I suggest you track your low unsuited attempts for just one session, and I think you'll see what I'm talking about. On the other hand, its not like you asked for input on this... so feel free to ignore me!


As for low and suited... pretty much the same thing happens. If unsure, track those hands and see how many you win. I don't play anything less than J 10 suited and even then I have to be in late position.


Ione

The ODDS of winning with a 7-2 unsuited are a mere 5.86% in a 10 player hand. I found it at wizardofodds.com. Here's a link:

http://www.wizardofodds.com/holdem/h...10players.html

In fact, you can find the odds for any two cards and any number of players at that site. Pretty cool!

Low suited depends on 3 things for me

1/ Has the blinds been raised, if not then it can be worth a look, but only if...
2/ Position, if you are early on then it is not worth calling, someone is likely to raise and then you have just called your money away, since you can't call on something that low.
3/ How many people are playing, between 4-6 i would, less and the money you will get from a flush is not worth the risk, any more and someone is likely to have a better suited hand, this can cost a lot of money.

Also if you do hit the flush on the flop remember to be careful, there is a chance that another suited carded will turn up making your hand go from a very strong one to a very weak one.

Play them in Limit fold them in NoLimit

You guys gotta tighten up. Suited isn't a big deal, it helps but is not something to play all the time. Your odds of making a flush on the flop is 1 in 118. Not very good.

I'll muck A9 suited if I'm in early position.

i'd muck that in late position unless there were 4+ callers too

Low suited cards are almost always bad news for me. I ll see the folp with them if big blind, small bilind with no raisers. If no pair comes may way I will usually fold rathar slowly.

Haha, Am I the only idiot that plays low suited connectors very fast?

In position, I almost always raise with them to chase out all of the mediocre hands, then I place a bet on the flop regardless of what I have. If someone calls, I try to show it down, but you'll find when you get a good flop with these cards, their value is very high, because likely callers will always have high cards and pot-stick themselves.

I might be the only person who likes this hand that much, but I have made more money of lowe suited cards than all of the "big" pre-flop hands combined. However, if I miss on the flop, I always know when to cut my losses.

i would call with hands like 7 8, 8 9, 9 10 suited in a hand in late position and only if there are a lot of people playing that hand. If you are going to be you against the blinds it isn't worth is because low suited conectors are hands that you have to hit the nail on the head, but when you do it pays off greatly, but once again, only with enough players in the hand to extract a fair amount of chips from

you people are getting this wrong, when i go in you can usualy read what the other players have, iv only been fooled a few times, but i mean if you aint got 2 3, 2 jacks come on the flop and theres three people on the board along with you, check, and every1 checks, odds are you can take the hand by bluffing, lol unless some1 calls you.. i dunno i have my whole poker theory and it usualy works out well

I personally only play middle suited connectors. The lowest I might play is 56 suited and it all depends on position and how comfortable I am with the chip stack. Playing them in a turbo game is not the greatest idea but they have alot of potential.

In a cash NL game, you want to see as many flops as you possibly can. Many of you may believe that this strays from conventional wisdom, but I tend to win more, and be less predictable when you play a lot of pots, raise often preflop and simply be aggressive. Of course, you won't play 72 offsuit, or 94 in a raised pot... the hand will need SOME value. Something I've learned in many years of play (stud, and hold'em) is that ANY two cards are playable, as long as you're well aware of where you're at. For example, lets say a big stack, 1-2 NL cash game, makes a reasonable raise preflop. For a shot at his stack, you will invest whatever his raise may be, because your outcome could potentially be to double up. What if the raiser held KK, and you were holding 10 9 suited? What if the flop came JQK? Do you think the guy will lay down a set of kings? You're approximately 70% to win with two cards to come, and because of that 15 dollars you called preflop with 10 9, you are in position to take his stack, especially if he's firing away. There are many times where I took 93 suited and won a HUGE pot off someone who had A3 by flopping a full house... and your losses are minimal if you miss. This is a winning NL cash-game strategy that I employ to great results, but in terms of limit play, you simply need to play a straightforward game. Play mostly hands that have merit (middle, to big cards, and all pairs) and avoid playing cards that will lose big in the long run. Your payoff in a limit game by flopping a miracle is 3-4 big bets, and that hardly merits the risk you run by calling sub-par hands... although in certain instances, even rags merit a look at the flop if the pot odds are there. In no-limit, it can mean doubling up. I suppose many of you will disagree with my strategy, but it works well for me.

i think it comes down to the way u play the game? if ur agreasive it can be good or if your tight And u get 4 5 of diamonds i belive that type of player would fold his or her cards

these are the best cards to beat any monster pre-flop hand. they are also the best semi-bluff hand because when u catch a good flop u will have endless outs.

there is no general rules in poker... but i do like to play low suited connectors.. only if no big raise is made..
play it .. but don't get in love with them