Limit Poker, where does the madness end?

So recently I decided to try my hand at Limit Hold'em. I have a small bankroll and cannot afford to play at any but the lower limits. Now I think I would enjoy limit poker more, as it seems to be a game that I could take a very practical mathematical approach to.

However, at the lower limits I might as well withdraw my money, walk to the corner store and buy scratch tickets. There is no logical play, raises mean nothing, bottom pair is good enough to call all the way down to the river.... etc. etc. etc.

So my question is this:

At what level does limit hold'em stop being bingo and start becoming poker?

I also want an answer to this question, i have only ever played low limit holdem and i just wait for good cards.

i sometimes play limit poker just to shake things up a bit . most of the time you are right you get the donks that chase anything to the river. but you get that in no limit to. only in no limit they usually donk out of the game a lot faster. i find it presents a different challenge then limit but i have one well with it. i play tight and just play my top 10 hands. when you have the nuts it is a beauiful thing watching that fish chase your lure to the river.

Why is a chasing opponent a problem? The aim of the game isn't to win pots, it's to win money.

I understand that you want your opponents to chase and thats how you get money from them. But when the entire table is willing to chase any ridiculous draw at all, all the way to the river, then it takes all the skill out of the game and reduces it to whoever gets luckiest.

Maybe I've just had a few unlucky sessions where I have experienced a higher than average number of suckouts, so I'll probably keep at it awile longer. But I'd still like an answer to my original question, if anyone has progressed through the levels of limit hold'em and has experience to share with me.

Well in games like you are describing, don't bluff, don't bet/play mediocre hands and value bet the max your good hands. Should make good money in the long run.

Limit games

POSITION POSITION POSITION

No matter at what stakes, position, good reads and hitting the flop hard pays off.

The higher the limit, usually means better play but not allways. You have to get pretty high in limits for there to be really conservative and readable players ... BUT... once your there they know that too and it can become a LAG fest. LOL

In lower limits luck plays a larger factor, play TAG, button, cutoff and precutoff fold in all the other positions unless you have a pp and hit a set, straight or flush on the flop.

Even then if the probabilities (luck) isn't hitting you, change tables, take a walk, get an ice cream or come back another day. They call low limit No Fold'em Hold'em for a reason.

I didn't answer your question because I think it's fundamentally flawed. Your outlook seems to be that this is a game about winning pots, but it isn't. It's a game about winning money. If everyone calls all the way to the river but you, and you're skilled, you will win lots of money the times you have something, and you will lose very little the times you don't.

Win money, not pots.

If you're asking at what point people stop chasing all over, I'd say around $1/$2. For what it's worth, I'd play at tables full of chasers every day of the week if I could. I end up sitting at tables where people respect my raises and fold, and it's pretty damn costly.

Point taken.

For an excellent discourse on all the chasing fish and why they are good, not bad read this article.

Also, buy Small Stakes Holdem by Ed Miller. Read it over and over again until you understand the adjustments you need to make to beat this type of game.