k8?

#1 23rd August 2008, 2:19 PM

I had king and 8 in a heads-up.

With king and 8 and a third card on the flop, I went all-in to steal the chips from pre-flop. thought I wouldn't get any calls. The other guy had connected suits (spades) and got a flush on turn.

#2 28th August 2008, 5:08 AM

Never go all in with K-8 preflop; just don't do it. You can steal the blinds by raising 4 or 5 times the blinds. You're risking all your chips on cards that aren't great, and people like calling all-in preflop for some reason. It's easy for people (mainly donks) to call pre-flop with suited connectors or any pocket pair or even with an ace. You just should never, ever, go all-in with K 8. That should go without saying. Bad idea.

#3 29th August 2008, 2:03 AM

If you are going to steal the blinds make sure its not for your tournament life. I cant see what you would gain by going all in to try and steal the blinds. Its a learning expirience.

#4 29th August 2008, 3:01 AM

eh?

You flop 2 pair and decide to "steal the pot from preflop" in a heads up game? I must be missing something here...

And that second post about never going all in preflop with it, well that's just silly advice. Heads-up game, I have 500 chips, villian has 2500. Blinds are 50/100 and I'm SB. Of course I'm going all in with it.

#5 29th August 2008, 3:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtriclone

If you are going to steal the blinds make sure its not for your tournament life. I cant see what you would gain by going all in to try and steal the blinds. Its a learning expirience.

Seems a bit off topic to your original post, but...

Why not? Just come home from a live tournament. Blinds were 4000/8000 with 4 players remaining. Folded to me on the button. With only 33000 remaining (and all players with more chips than me) I consider it pretty much a standard shove. The cards are pretty much irrelevant.

#6 29th August 2008, 3:05 AM

In heads up K8 is a good hand. In that situation, I'd go with my instincts and make that play, you just got caught this time. If you start second guessing then you'll make more mistakes. Anyway, with headsup you're not playing to make 2nd place....you need to take risks to win it all.

#7 29th August 2008, 7:56 AM

i agree with robbel
no need to push when a raise can tell u a lot more about what kinda shape ur hand is in
then u can decide what to do if indeed he does raise

#8 29th August 2008, 8:19 AM

you didn't say how many chips u had and what was the BB - did you have enough chips to first raise 4 BB and still be aggressive after the flop?

in any case if the other guy is the BB (and again - it depends on how many chips are in play, i assume u were already low), he gets ok odds for any 2 reasonable hole cards

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