| This is a discussion on Just a few trouble hands... would like thoughts! within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Hero (Button) ($10) SB ($13.35) BB ($5.23) UTG ($17.05) MP1 ($26.83) MP2 ($10.10) CO ($10.74) Preflop : Hero is Button ... |
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| Just a few trouble hands... would like thoughts! Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Hero (Button) ($10) SB ($13.35) BB ($5.23) UTG ($17.05) MP1 ($26.83) MP2 ($10.10) CO ($10.74) Preflop: Hero is Button with K , J![]() 4 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30 I always raise the same... 40c so pretty standard here. Flop: ($0.85) A , 4 , 6 (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40 Ok it's checked to me so I fire off a standard 50% C-bet. I think it's size is pretty irrelivent. Turn: ($1.65) Q (2 players)BB checks, Hero checks Its checked to me on the turn. Probably a great spot to double barrel though I cannot remember why I didn't! River: ($1.65) 8 (2 players)BB bets $1, Hero folds I think I had probably now given up and he knew it! Total pot: $1.65 | Rake: $0.08 Results below: BB didn't show Outcome: BB won $1.57 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com SB ($10.86) BB ($10.14) Hero (UTG) ($10) UTG+1 ($11.87) MP1 ($9.60) MP2 ($6.57) CO ($17.08) Button ($10) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , A![]() Hero bets $0.40, 3 folds, CO calls $0.40, 3 folds Pretty standard here I think. Great hand raise in EP to protect it. Flop: ($0.95) K , 6 , 9 (2 players)Hero bets $0.50, CO raises to $1.50, Hero folds This is one of the 1 in 4 times my first card is a heart so I just bet half the pot. Was this a mistake? I had not useful info on the apponant and went into the tank for some time but something told me to fold... should I have called or shoved? Total pot: $1.95 | Rake: $0.09 Results below: CO didn't show Outcome: CO won $1.86 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com CO ($5.23) Button ($9.13) SB ($9.01) BB ($19.41) UTG ($8.22) UTG+1 ($13.23) MP1 ($8.35) Hero (MP2) ($10) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K , J![]() 3 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold Standard raise from the hijack with no limpers. I feel I have a decent hand in this spot. 40c it is as usual. B and SB call. Flop: ($1.30) 5 , 10 , K (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, Button calls $1.20, 1 fold Flop comes and I figure a strong bet is called for. I am now OOP against the only other caller. Turn: ($3.70) A (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero folds Now I feel as if most of the hands that would call my PFR are ahead of me! Should I have bet the turn when that ace came. I just felt I was in a shite spot. My apponant obviously senced my weakness! Total pot: $3.70 | Rake: $0.18 Results below: Button didn't show Outcome: Button won $3.52 Last edited by Deceitful_Frank : 12th June 2010 at 10:13 PM. |
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| On the first hand, I agree with the preflop raise, I think the flop bet should've been more, I think the size is relevant and a bigger bet may have been respected as an Ace. On the second hand, preflop is good, you hit a pretty decent flop. Again I would've probably bet a little bigger,. When raised, you're left with about 9 bucks, I think too big of a stack to just go all in. A reraise to about $3.50 should let you know where you are, and you still may be good if he shoves on top. I think that was a good spot to make some money. You should've at least called the raise on the flop and see what happened on the turn. On the third hand, you can go either way. To me it seems when you are heads up you are betting lighter than you should and multiway pots you bet almost the size of the pot. It's very possible he hit broadway on the turn, I don't mind the fold. However I think if you bet about $.80, its big enough where people who folded for $1.20 will fold for $.80, you can fire $2 on the turn and then you'll have a better feel of where you're at. |
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| Hand 1: Pre-flop: Standard. Flop: A high flop, standard cbet. Turn/River: Check-folding is standard. You shouldn't expect the guy to float wide OOP on a dry flop, especially with the A which not only is the most likely card to be in your range but it shrinks all floating ranges because there are no overcards. I'm not sure the Q is a good card to barrel either because you basically never have it. Hand 2: Pre-flop is standard. Flop... not sure why you're using a random factor to decide your action here. This should be a standard cbet 100% of the time. Should also be 2/3 pot, minimum, increase your raise size if your opponent is particularly fishy. Purely because we're OOP I don't mind folding to the raise. Not something you'd do against anyone with history against you, but we're pretty much playing for stacks if we continue and I don't want to do that against opponents who're largely passive. Hand 3: Pre-flop is standard. Flop... yeah, I agree that you need to have bigger bet sizes OOP but this is to increase fold equity and extract more value, neither of these things are ideal with TPGK. Just make it 90c or something, we're not trying to build a pot, just trying to extract some value with the probably best hand that can't take any heat. Turn, should be bet-fold, imo. The A is scarier to them than it is to you. Betting turns your hand into a bluff but it's +EV. |
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| re: Just a few trouble hands... would like thoughts! poker Thanks for your reply. Quote:
I know you are gonna say just bet more when you hit than when you miss but I do this to disguise my holdings. Perhaps this is pointless at 10NL but I beleive it will become necessary at some point so why not do it now! I make great effort to be unreadable pre-flop (my raise is ALWAYS 40c) If I was to bet more to cut through limpers I am giving away info am I not? Perhaps there are times when AA doesnt get the action it deserves or when I end up with too many callers after the flop but I think its worth the rare sacrfice for deception. I am pleased however you feel on the whole I played the hand well. |
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| You need to disguise your hands more, just standard raising isn't always good. Just limping or min-raising from early position with strong hands and raising with weak hands is needed to conceal your hands. With you raising your pretty much telling your opponent what you have. |
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| Hand 1 and 3, i think you could find reasons for bet/folding depending on opponent stats, your image etc.. check/folding is fine as well.. Hand 2, i dont get.. he has flush draws in his range, weaker K's, mid pairs etc.. Think you lose alot of value by folding TPTK in that spot.. i would definitely bet bigger on the flop to protect the hand. As played i think i'm re-raising and getting it in. |
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